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Oil filter comparison FL-2087 vs. FL-2087-A

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#41 ·
I have 6 on the way. I don't put on as many miles as some of you do, so these will last me a while.

By the time I need another one, we'll know for sure if the replacement part is in fact good enough and if not, they'll either go back to making the originals or have a proper replacement for them.
 
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CodeOrange said:
I have 6 on the way. I don't put on as many miles as some of you do, so these will last me a while.
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Mario I hope you get the right ones. As you read on the first post, they sent me the “A” even though I had ordered the correct one. Like you, if I get my hands on a few I will have enough until this gets sorted out.
 
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Mike @03reptile received this response to his follow up email to Ford Performance:

When Motorcraft supersedes a part the replacement meets or exceeds the orginal part.
Sorry but I do not have any sources to information about this specific Motorcraft part or to any sources that do.
Our group is technical support for the Ford Performance Parts program. If we had the info you were looking for we would pass it on even if its outside of what we do here.
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QSK50 said:
Mario I hope you get the right ones. As you read on the first post, they sent me the “A” even though I had ordered the correct one. Like you, if I get my hands on a few I will have enough until this gets sorted out.
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Yup, received the -A instead. So now you know that if you try to get them from Amazon, even though the show as no. -A and the pictures show the metal cores, they are in fact the ECOBOOST version, as printed on the boxes I received. Returned.

I was able to get some from Middleton Ford, so no big deal.

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CodeOrange said:
Yup, received the -A instead. So now you know that if you try to get them from Amazon, even though the show as no. -A and the pictures show the metal cores, they are in fact the ECOBOOST version, as printed on the boxes I received. Returned.

I was able to get some from Middleton Ford, so no big deal.

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Mario I tried my luck again with O'Reilly and received the correct one. I figured if they messed up again I would just return them. Right now they have 20% off $150 so it’s worth a try. They will take returns at the store so just make sure there’s one conveniently located.

I don’t want to be the test car so I will wait until this gets sorted out before using an A filter. The response Mike received from Ford Performance is not sufficient enough for me to try.
 
#49 ·
QSK50 said:
Mario I tried my luck again with O'Reilly and received the correct one. I figured if they messed up again I would just return them. Right now they have 20% off $150 so it’s worth a try. They will take returns at the store so just make sure there’s one conveniently located.

I don’t want to be the test car so I will wait until this gets sorted out before using an A filter. The response Mike received from Ford Performance is not sufficient enough for me to try.
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Thanks for the info on O'Reilly.

Same thing here, I don't want to be the guinea pig. That's why I want to keep some on hand.

Middleton had some in stock, so I got a few from there.
 
#51 ·
Thanks Barb for posting up Ford's reply! :love: Mr. Kot did state that no new or replacement part is released to the public without first being tested to make sure it meets Ford's requirements. That's sounds reasonable to me if it is carved in stone! But to my way of thinking, a $20K+ flat plane race engine sitting in my car causes me some pause to reflect on the absolute validity of that statement. I've got some FL 2087 filters in my personal stock (5) and will speak with my dealership's parts manager to get me a few more so that they will outlast what time I have left before someone takes my keys away! Had to do that to my Mom so now it looks like "what goes around, comes around" will apply to me, as well.
 
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I thought the A filters were a new item. The two boxes in the picture (not mine) were recently delivered and the A filter box has a date of Nov. 24, 2022

Does this mean Ford decided that our cars didn’t need the reinforcement of the FL2087 filter and our cars can get by with an ecoboost filter? So the A filters are not a new item?

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QSK50 said:
I thought the A filters were a new item. The two boxes in the picture (not mine) were recently delivered and the A filter box has a date of Nov. 24, 2022

Does this mean Ford decided that our cars didn’t need the reinforcement of the FL2087 filter and our cars can get by with an ecoboost filter? So the A filters are not a new item?

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The whole thing is a mess! I bet some dip stick just made a decision without even knowing what the hell they were doing. I absolutely can’t believe an Ecoboost cartridge would be suitable for the GT500. That polymer would need to be Glock polymer to hold up to the pressure.
 
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QSK50 said:
Chris I am just confused because I thought when a part was replaced and preceded with a letter or number it meant it was a new part.
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In theory yes but Ford is known for changing part numbers with new manufacturing for the same parts. They did it several times during the Scamdemic. Some factory in Asia goes into lockdown and they use a different factory and poof we have a new part number. I found that issue when searching for some screws and other items in 2022.

I’m a firm believer that someone saw the new cartridge costing a whole lot less to produce and viola they said hey I’ll save us a ton of money by replacing the old one. Not realizing that the GT500 is a specific cartridge for a reason. It literally says eacoboost on the dang box 😂 I don’t think Mr. Kot knows what he’s talking about.

Someone needs to ask Mr. Kot who at ford would know, like maybe an engineer who could speak to the technical aspects of how an Ecoboost filter is going to work in a $50k engine designed for racing.
 
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I came across this youtube video made over a year ago. I guess the cartridge style filter Ford is using, may have different part numbers, but they are interchangable as far as the applications. The 2.7 and 3.0 twin turbo engines use cartridge style filters as well and if you're shopping for a premium oil filter, the hot ticket was apparently the FL2087, which was specifically developed for the GT500. Do you need the original FL2087? Maybe, if you were running your GT500 in the Yukon in winter at 0° and beating the not out of it before the engine is warmed up, but even then it was probably over designed for that. Ford takes its durability testing to extremes. I have one FL2087 left. I'm confident if there's a problem with the new "a" design, there will be a replacement before I get to that point.

 
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