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Is this still going? Lol, look at my sig I’ve got both and they both have certificates one certificate says svt cobra ? the other says shelby GT500 not anywhere on the shelby certificate is the word cobra nor is there the word Shelby gt500 on the svt cobra certificate. I have both window stickers the Shelby window sticker does not say it is a cobra either. So don’t hate just throwing a little gas on it to each their own I personally think they’re two different snakes
 
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Lol you may be right as a avid car collector I’ve got so many it’s hard to keep up with all documentation. But I can guarantee what I do have on either of the two doesn’t call my 09 a cobra or call my 97 a gt500 I did find a snap of my 97 cert on this phone thingy. Pretty sure there’s some branding copyright issues since svt probably licensed cobra as with Shelby and gt500 I’m not 100% sure but it’s probably something like that
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This entire argument boils down to Ford's bastardization of the word "Cobra" after Shelby American stopped production of the A.C. Bristol bodied, 2 seat, Cobra sports car. Call your car whatever you want, but the original assignment of the name "Cobra" was intended to describe the A.C. Bristol sports car that Mr. Shelby and employees altered with a small block Ford V-8 all those years ago. Everything that happened afterward was basically poetic license and marketing by Ford employees.
 

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Yeah it’s been very misleading since for sure. To see a huge picture of a cobra with the word Shelby underneath. And while I was digging up my certificate for the Shelby I had forgot about this old piece of magazine advertising I had hanging up. Muddies the water of my argument a tad lol. Just think it’s funny it’s a real deal advertising piece calling it a cobra think it’s the 67 though
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Yeah it’s been very misleading since for sure. To see a huge picture of a cobra with the word Shelby underneath. And while I was digging up my certificate for the Shelby I had forgot about this old piece of magazine advertising I had hanging up. Muddies the water of my argument a tad lol. Just think it’s funny it’s a real deal advertising piece calling it a cobra think it’s the 67 though View attachment 196491 View attachment 196490
1968 is the one and only exception year. Ford took over the program and got a little loose/excited with the “Cobra” name like @03reptile eluded to and marketed the ‘68 as the Shelby Cobra GT500. “Cobra” was removed once again for the ‘69 model year.
 
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In a hobby where talk is cheap & often wrong, documentation is still the yardstick.
You can argue ANY point, what proof can you provide to back up your statement..
 

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My 18 year daughter called my GT500 a Cobra the other day, I just chalked it up to her seeing the emblems and that was her first thought, I did not correct her.

..................but what did come to mind was the Ford Maverick.............It has Steer Head emblems all over it, inside and out. I have never heard it called a "Steer", or a "Long Horn" or a "Cow Head", maybe even a "Horny"...........Why not???? It has Long Horn Steer Head emblems on it in addition to the "Maverick" name.......

Big and Bold, just like the Cobra emblem on the Shelby GT500........



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A maverick is an unbranded animal, typically a steer. So the symbol is intended to represent a maverick....an unbranded steer.
 

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...............As a Cobra symbol represents the Shelby name or brand?

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So you are saying that because a Maverick is by definition an unbranded steer, the Shelby is similarly a Cobra?
 

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My 2013 GT500 has a 20th Anniversary Badge. That would take it back to 1993 and they weren't making Shelbys then, but they were making Cobras. If my car is not a Cobra, what is its 20th Anniversary badge celebrating?
 

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If I understand correctly, it celebrating the 20th anniversary of SVT. Ford’s special vehicle team. And I believe that dissolved this year.
 

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My 2013 GT500 has a 20th Anniversary Badge. That would take it back to 1993 and they weren't making Shelbys then, but they were making Cobras. If my car is not a Cobra, what is its 20th Anniversary badge celebrating?
If I understand correctly, it celebrating the 20th anniversary of SVT. Ford’s special vehicle team. And I believe that dissolved this year.
Correct Ron! There was a 10th anniversary edition of the Terminator Cobra in 03 for the 10 years of SVT. All 2013 GT500s received the 20 year anniversary door sills for the occasion if I recall correctly.
 
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