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I have to drive the GT500 year round if I go with this car. I can't locate any solid info on winter tire setups. I can't be the only one who wants to do this.

So please, share with me any of your experience. I am in the Chicago burbs. Drive short distances, generally it's cleared right away. Also - have been driving RWD hi perf cars for 23 years!

Anyhow. I am about inches away from signing on the line. But this is the last straggler for me to decide.

All - please, again, I can't be the only one that thinks this is a regular driver/daily driver and will use it this way. I've driven much more expensive cars through the crud and am hoping this thread becomes useful to many others.

Thanks in advance!

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All mustangs I have owned and had to drive in the snow was the worst. No traction, not enough weight in the rear, and to much torque not to spin. I guess if I had studs or chains that would have been allot better. But since you said you drive short distance I would consider a Cheap 2nd car. You can pick up a high mileage beater for less than a 1000.00. I have had them most of my life, Ford Fiesta, Ford Festiva, Escort, Subura Justy. All them had high miles no the best body in some cases but the mechanics was excellet. I bought the Fiesta with 92,000 mile on it for $ 500.00 and drove it for 3 years and only changed plugs, wires, and it needed new battery and battery cables. In the 3rd year during winter someone could stop at the intersection (wasn't paying attention) and t-boned me. When I got out and looked it over I say to myself well at least it isn't my GT Mustang that was home under a cover :) I say get a snow / rain car :) Because the Shelby will suck in the snow.
 

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The weight balance could be an issue (light rear end). That having been said, my recent winter cars (ok, 4 season cars with snow tires)...

2005 Mustang GT
2006 Infiniti G35 Coupe
2000 BMW M3
2003 Mercedes C230

That stable combined with the fact that now I'm in an Audi S4 (yea, quattro good for snow) makes me wonder.... get the GT500, or write off the pipe dream. Would love something to mod and play with but not at the cost of getting stuck in a beater 4 months out of the year.

Back to the tire thoughts. Thanks for the input!

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As far as the light rear-end goes, you can throw a few sand bags in the trunk. That's what I did with my wife's 98 Mustang. It makes a big difference. Couple that with some studded snow tires, and I think the performance in winter conditions will vastly improve.
 

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SERIOUSLY.

<cross posting here and on SVT since I'm not finding any info>

I have to drive the GT500 year round if I go with this car. I can't locate any solid info on winter tire setups. I can't be the only one who wants to do this.

So please, share with me any of your experience. I am in the Chicago burbs. Drive short distances, generally it's cleared right away. Also - have been driving RWD hi perf cars for 23 years!

Anyhow. I am about inches away from signing on the line. But this is the last straggler for me to decide.

All - please, again, I can't be the only one that thinks this is a regular driver/daily driver and will use it this way. I've driven much more expensive cars through the crud and am hoping this thread becomes useful to many others.

Thanks in advance!

Peet


Ask Vnmous1 he also lives in Chicago and drives it year round.
 

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We are in the snow belt in BC. (400 cms 160 inches plus and counting) Winter tires are a must, but finding any tires seems to be the problem this year. Four studded winters on a second set of wheels is prefered as the salt and sand is murder on the alloy wheels. Blizzak's or X-Ice seem to be the popular brands, but I think they just have the best advertising.

Sofa King much snow
 

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So a day of research and the only 285 series tires are the Pirelli P Zero Nero M&S - which, on my Audi S4 - are a godsend for Chicago weather. 6" of crud on the ground, no problem.

Now - those same tires, on a 60% front 40% rear 500HP monster - probably not much help. So this leads me to the next step...

What GT wheels fit the GT500? If I could get thinner rims front and rear with winter rubber, that should do the job.

I'm sure standard GT rims will fit rear (no issue there with bigger brakes), but the front I highly doubt.

Anyone in this frame of thinking?

Sorry to keep beating this. I have a bead on a car, but can't bring myself to pulling the trigger withotu this solved.

Thanks tons.
Peet

And 07: thanks again! You're a fountain of knowledge! I sure do hope I can get this resolved satisfactorily - otherwise, my next car will be a bore to hold me over a year or so. (seems like some nice stuff coming out in 08)
 

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now THAT is not gonna happen :D

C'mon there HAS to be a solution to this. I just read the owner handbook supplement - ford even recommends a specific tire size (don't recall at the moment) right there in black and white. I believe it is the stock front size they are recommending. But - other than buying another set of these wheels for the front and putting on the rear, what option is there? Not like I'll put a 9" tire on an 11" wheel!

Do any of you have a GT500 and a GT handy? :D - if so, can you see if a stock GT wheel will fit the 500?

Sigh.

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now THAT is not gonna happen :D

C'mon there HAS to be a solution to this. I just read the owner handbook supplement - ford even recommends a specific tire size (don't recall at the moment) right there in black and white. I believe it is the stock front size they are recommending. But - other than buying another set of these wheels for the front and putting on the rear, what option is there? Not like I'll put a 9" tire on an 11" wheel!

Do any of you have a GT500 and a GT handy? :D - if so, can you see if a stock GT wheel will fit the 500?

Sigh.

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The GT wheels will not fit in front due to the 14" Brembos.
 

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FYI for closure...

Spoke with some folks, did tons of research. Best case solution:

Buy a pair of the front GT500 stock wheels to use on rear. Buy 255/45/18 snows - Blizzak has two different types - figure about $210 each.

For traction, add about 80-100 lbs of dead body parts (err) sand/salt to the trunk. Enjoy!

Now to figure this out for real!
 

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You would spend less on a piece of shit to drive around town wouldnt you. Plus then you dont have to worry about how your going to replace your shelby if someone runs into you.
 

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You would spend less on a piece of shit to drive around town wouldnt you. Plus then you dont have to worry about how your going to replace your shelby if someone runs into you.
You make a good point, cornfay. This biggest danger in driving in slick/snowy conditions is not poor handling of your vehicle, it's avoiding all the other idiots on the road.
 

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FYI for closure...

Spoke with some folks, did tons of research. Best case solution:

Buy a pair of the front GT500 stock wheels to use on rear. Buy 255/45/18 snows - Blizzak has two different types - figure about $210 each.

For traction, add about 80-100 lbs of dead body parts (err) sand/salt to the trunk. Enjoy!

Now to figure this out for real!

You mean tires(not wheels) right.Also,I would go with the tire chains instead of the studded tires since it is a Shelby!
For weight I would stuff the dealership owner and the sales manager in the trunk that way if you get stuck in the snow you can back peddle your way out!Make sure you tack on a hefty fee.I would start with $20,000 over.It seems to be the going rate!
 

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Actually 07 wheels... the 11" wheels in back are just way too big for winter tires. So 2 new front wheels to mount on back, and 4 9" snow tires all around.

To the beater crowd.

Guys - there is absolutely NOTHING to be gained there. First cost of the beater, then the insurance on another car (you say only liability - fine, it crashes then it's another $2-3k for another beater, out of pocket). Next, the parking situation - I don't have room for 3 cars, nor do I want to visually pollute the neighborhood with junk on the street.

Lastly - and to me most important, it's A FRIGGIN CAR. That's it. We're not talking Veyron here. It's not a lambo, it's a Mustang. The beer drinker's car - not the microbrew vodka clan. Yes it's special, but not enough to trailered nor ignored for a whole season. It should be used and enjoyed.

And - if some dumbass who doesn't know how to drive in snow crashes into it - that's what insurance is for. I'm buying to use and enjoy for ME, not the next guy who will buy it from me. I figured that concept out after protecting the crap out of interiors. At some point, you have to get tired of living in a plastic covered world and enjoy YOUR stuff.

On to that last point, if I were to stuff every ADM-head into the trunk, the car wouldn't be able to move - suspesion woudld collapse on the wheels.

That is really bugging me. I actually got over my NO way MSRP or nothing mentality and am willing to go up to 5 - can't make even that happen. Pretty soon the upside on my lease trade-in will be gone, and I won't bother, will just lease another euro toy and call this a day.

Later all!

--- oh yea, 07: you got any 5k hookups anymore?

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Hey Jonsey - no pissed-off-ness to peeps here. The dealer population - right now they rate somewhere between a bacterium and osama :)

All I keep saying though, this is about personal choices. To me, it's just transport. To others - it's a pedestal of perfection that needs to be vacuum wrapped and only enjoyed on sunny days. That's cool - to each their own.

BUT - what it boils down to, I started this thread for people with my interest: driving year-round and doing so safely. Every time a beater note came up, I try to divert right back. In fact - I specifically state that in the first post - this is for all to learn about winter tires. It's a no brainer that I can buy another car - sure. But that other car does cost more than just wheels and tires and by doing the wheels and tires, I end up saving a few dollars and doing what I said I like - driving year round.

So - love and peace to you all (ok, even the few dalers). Have a good weekend.

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<cross posting here and on SVT since I'm not finding any info>

I have to drive the GT500 year round if I go with this car. I can't locate any solid info on winter tire setups. I can't be the only one who wants to do this.

So please, share with me any of your experience. I am in the Chicago burbs. Drive short distances, generally it's cleared right away. Also - have been driving RWD hi perf cars for 23 years!

Anyhow. I am about inches away from signing on the line. But this is the last straggler for me to decide.

All - please, again, I can't be the only one that thinks this is a regular driver/daily driver and will use it this way. I've driven much more expensive cars through the crud and am hoping this thread becomes useful to many others.

Thanks in advance!

Peet
Sorry PEET, you may be the "only one". Too much power/torque for snow and ice. You'll sit in a lot of slightly uphill spots and go nowhere........

Just read the idea of a beater car. I have a 93 sable live up on a hill with winding roads. My wife's LS won't climb, my TC wouldn't, I'm not even trying the Shelby. But that damn old Sable, climbs up every time. And we get hit pretty good too. In North Central Pa..... Good luck. The beater is the best idea if you take cost of snows, wheels, and you still have the risk of trouble.

These guys will keep you straight.
 

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The beater has always worked for me only because up till a few years ago all my toys were setup for street/strip and putting snow tires on would do nothing in true snow...yes if 1 or 2 inches I am sure I could get by...no I take that back with the 3500 stall in the stang I would have been screwed. My beaters were like $ 500.00 cars and they ran great for years with little or no expense. In fact the goal was to spend as little as possible so youcould put the money in the toy :) Insurance was a few hundred dollars a year and I didn't wash it, or take that good of care of it except for maintenance issues. Plus the toys were always clean and I would drive them in the winter but if it rained or there was snow the beater was the hero. Now at age 40 I still have beater, I bought a 2003 ZX3 Focus brand new for like 12K something and paid cash so no payment just so my hot rod truck could sit and than I got the Shelby. I do wash the focus but if I go to the store and someone puts a shopping car into the side of it..yes I will be pissed since it only has 35K on it but I won't be sick like I would if it was the GT500. I will drive the focus till the rims fall off that is why I bought it. And my experience with insurance is yes they will fix anything that happens but it is never truly like factory something is always a little off, color, or now it has a squeak whatever. But this again is because I am some what anal about my toys not my daily driver. Some day when I get out toys (if every) I will just get something like Acura RL or whatever the flavor of the year is at that time but having 2 cars one for fun and one for purpose....yes it is expensive depending on your beater but it doesn't have to be for now to me it is worth it.
 
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