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So new to the 500 world, and living in a remote area, I could really use Some guidance to all the models. Available within about 10hours to drive there is 1 2008 KR, 1 2007 super snake, 1 2014 Gt350 (s197 gt350 that is), and 1 standard 2007 gt500.

The 350 and super snake cost about the same. I really, really like the super snake, but find the updated interior of the 2014 much more appealing. But the ss has the better transmission and exterior, while the 350 arguably has the best looking engine bay of any mustang I have ever seen. But there is that front end that is a bit.. Rice?

Then there is the KR, lovely car, but again old like the ss and not very much less money.

And then the plain standard gt500, great base for modifications.

As for prices the ss and 350 cost about the same, KR a little less and the 500 is dirt cheap in comparison.


No matter what car I get, I want a car that has decent handling as the roads are twisty around here. Any details on the super snake handling would be nice. The 350 is probably the best of the bunch, and the KR and plain gt500 will probably need mods to the suspension to handle adequately.

Any input? How good are the older super snakes?
 

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So new to the 500 world, and living in a remote area, I could really use Some guidance to all the models. Available within about 10hours to drive there is 1 2008 KR, 1 2007 super snake, 1 2014 Gt350 (s197 gt350 that is), and 1 standard 2007 gt500.

The 350 and super snake cost about the same. I really, really like the super snake, but find the updated interior of the 2014 much more appealing. But the ss has the better transmission and exterior, while the 350 arguably has the best looking engine bay of any mustang I have ever seen. But there is that front end that is a bit.. Rice?

Then there is the KR, lovely car, but again old like the ss and not very much less money.

And then the plain standard gt500, great base for modifications.

As for prices the ss and 350 cost about the same, KR a little less and the 500 is dirt cheap in comparison.


No matter what car I get, I want a car that has decent handling as the roads are twisty around here. Any details on the super snake handling would be nice. The 350 is probably the best of the bunch, and the KR and plain gt500 will probably need mods to the suspension to handle adequately.

Any input? How good are the older super snakes?
Is that the flag of Denmark under your screen name...?

Is handling on the twisty roads is your focus, do you have any S550 GT350s available to you?
 

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Okay, I've had a 2007, 2011 and 2013 GT500 over the last thirteen years. Last year I bought a new 2019 GT350. There is no comparison between the live rear axle GT500's and the independent rear suspension of the GT350. The GT500 just cannot corner as well as the GT350. The GT350 handles and feels much better. It also has far more creature comforts to go along with the package. It would be a no brainer for me. As for the looks of the car, I personally think its the best looking of all the recent Mustangs since 2007.
 

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The gt350s scare me off a little with all the engine problems, plus the import tax is terrible in this country. Id need to wait at least a few years, or the tax is as much as the car 😳Also I have 2 kids, and correct me if I'm wrong but the s197 has the better back seats don't they?

I don't need a that handles like a Porsche really, but I tried a 07 gt500 and that was quite bad to be honest. I'd like a car that can handle the twisty stuff, attend a track day without trying to kill me and just be fun as a weekend warrior. I wonder how the super snake compares to the stock car, or even the 2013 or gt350?
 

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The gt350s scare me off a little with all the engine problems, plus the import tax is terrible in this country. Id need to wait at least a few years, or the tax is as much as the car 😳Also I have 2 kids, and correct me if I'm wrong but the s197 has the better back seats don't they?

I don't need a that handles like a Porsche really, but I tried a 07 gt500 and that was quite bad to be honest. I'd like a car that can handle the twisty stuff, attend a track day without trying to kill me and just be fun as a weekend warrior. I wonder how the super snake compares to the stock car, or even the 2013 or gt350?
I have never driven an S197 GT350, but I would assume it would handle better than the 07-14 GT500.
 

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I would imagine all of your options other than the 2007 stocker would handle about the same. The SS most likely has the Eibach suspension. I believe the KR has FR suspension. The GT350 also has a suspension upgrade as well. The GT350 had a wide range of options from Shelby American.

For me, if all were in the same condition and mileage, I would be for the 2007 SS. Unless, you want something to drive daily, then the 2007 stock.

Great list of cars to choose from. Keep us posted.
 

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Any input? How good are the older super snakes?
“How good?“
At what? For what?

These all are vastly different cars, each with its own unique benefits, drawbacks and compromises which apply to both driving characteristics and as a collectible, the importance of which is wholly subjective.

Rather than deciding what you want from a particular list of cars, I’d suggest deciding what you want from a car and search only for those that meet those criteria.
 

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“How good?“
At what? For what?

These all are vastly different cars, each with its own unique benefits, drawbacks and compromises which apply to both driving characteristics and as a collectible, the importance of which is wholly subjective.

Rather than deciding what you want from a particular list of cars, I’d suggest deciding what you want from a car and search only for those that meet those criteria.

Sorry, should have been more specific. Obviously I want a gt500. Specifically one that handles the twistes, as even the highway around here is twisty, and even a track day if I feel like it. I can of course fix the suspension, but the stock gt500 is quite terrible on these roads and therefore only an option if I start the slippery slope of mods. If any of the other cars can handle good out of the box, then my money may be better used there as mods is normally not something that increase the value.. I like the super snake looks and history, a really mint and nice low milage 40th anniversary car. It's the 605hp version though. The gt350 is probably better in most every way, but the front end is something getting used to.. God I wish these cars weren't 10 hour drives away (and not even in the same direction).


I would imagine all of your options other than the 2007 stocker would handle about the same. The SS most likely has the Eibach suspension. I believe the KR has FR suspension. The GT350 also has a suspension upgrade as well. The GT350 had a wide range of options from Shelby American.

For me, if all were in the same condition and mileage, I would be for the 2007 SS. Unless, you want something to drive daily, then the 2007 stock.

Great list of cars to choose from. Keep us posted.
The super snake is my favorite. However it cost the same as the gt350 and is the same price.. The 350 and ss has very low milage and excellent condition. The KR has 30k miles.

Interesting that you think they all handle about the same. After seeing the KR on motortrend where randy pobst compared the KR to a bronko due to pitch and roll, I always thought it was near stock in suspension. And didn't carrol Shelby claim that the super snake was road race ready?
 

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Sorry, should have been more specific. Obviously I want a gt500. Specifically one that handles the twistes, as even the highway around here is twisty, and even a track day if I feel like it. I can of course fix the suspension, but the stock gt500 is quite terrible on these roads and therefore only an option if I start the slippery slope of mods. If any of the other cars can handle good out of the box, then my money may be better used there as mods is normally not something that increase the value.. I like the super snake looks and history, a really mint and nice low milage 40th anniversary car. It's the 605hp version though. The gt350 is probably better in most every way, but the front end is something getting used to.. God I wish these cars weren't 10 hour drives away (and not even in the same direction).




The super snake is my favorite. However it cost the same as the gt350 and is the same price.. The 350 and ss has very low milage and excellent condition. The KR has 30k miles.

Interesting that you think they all handle about the same. After seeing the KR on motortrend where randy pobst compared the KR to a bronko due to pitch and roll, I always thought it was near stock in suspension. And didn't carrol Shelby claim that the super snake was road race ready?
All of the cars on your list have a live rear axle with some type of suspension mod, except the 2007 base car. I suspect the SS and the GT350 have very similar suspension mods. The GT350 is 7 years newer and will have better comfort than all of them. The SS is the first year offered and the GT350 is the last year of production for SAI. I can speak to the SS suspension as my car has the same setup. It is a harsh ride due to Eibach Pro Street. Going through the twisties can be a handful due to the live rear axle. However, that’s the fun of it.

If you want a car to handle the twisties, but a 2015+ GT350 is not available. Consider a 2015+ 5.0 Mustang GT and add some mods. You’ll have that IRS and the Coyote has plenty of power. You could add mods for brakes and suspension and have something to carve those corners. It just won’t be a Shelby :)
 

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So new to the 500 world, and living in a remote area, I could really use Some guidance to all the models. Available within about 10hours to drive there is 1 2008 KR, 1 2007 super snake, 1 2014 Gt350 (s197 gt350 that is), and 1 standard 2007 gt500.

The 350 and super snake cost about the same. I really, really like the super snake, but find the updated interior of the 2014 much more appealing. But the ss has the better transmission and exterior, while the 350 arguably has the best looking engine bay of any mustang I have ever seen. But there is that front end that is a bit.. Rice?

Then there is the KR, lovely car, but again old like the ss and not very much less money.

And then the plain standard gt500, great base for modifications.

As for prices the ss and 350 cost about the same, KR a little less and the 500 is dirt cheap in comparison.


No matter what car I get, I want a car that has decent handling as the roads are twisty around here. Any details on the super snake handling would be nice. The 350 is probably the best of the bunch, and the KR and plain gt500 will probably need mods to the suspension to handle adequately.

Any input? How good are the older super snakes?
All of the cars you're looking at have the live rear axle. They didnt have IRS until '15, except the Terminator.

The GT350 was a limited production (something like 350 units), ordered straight from the factory. You'll be mostly paying for the exclusivity there. It comes in an N/A motor which has an automatic option, pushing about 430whp. There were also 2 S/C options, pushing 525whp and 624whp.

The KR is the King of The Road edition and theres also a bit of exclusivity there with only about 1,011 units produced. Its pushing about 530whp with a 5.4l S/C motor.

The SS, again exclusivity. That is a car in it's own class. They had anywhere from 540whp-660whp, but they also came with 3.73:1 gears and a multitude of other major performance upgrades as well as body/wheel upgrades.

The 07 gt500 is the "plain jane" of the group you're looking at. It's a 5.4l S/C motor giving you around 450whp.

If I were to choose, I would go with the SS. It may be a beast in the power department, but it's also been given significant suspension upgrades and has the largest tire size to help you keep the power on the pavement.

If it's a real track (twisties) car you want, the '15-present GT350/GT350r or the '20 GT500 are where it's at now.
 

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If you are interested in a Mustang equipped with an IRS for handling, don’t rule out a 99-04 Mustang Cobra. The 99 & 01 Cobras as well as the 00 Cobra R and the 03-04 Terminator Cobras all had an IRS rear end that handles waaay better than a solid rear axle. Also, as pointed out above, all 2015+ Mustangs got an IRS rear end.

If twisties are “your thing,” I think you will be happier with an IRS equipped car.
 

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Many great responses here. I understand that the irs cars must be great. But are the live axle cars really that bad? The s197 appeals too me with looks, rear seat space for the kids and the power level. Is the handling really that bad, even on the super snake?
 

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If you're stuck on an S197 for the looks, I don't blame you :ROFLMAO: . Buy a stock one and modify it to your liking. Griggs or Cortex will certainly have you handling as well as a live axle can.
 

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Many great responses here. I understand that the irs cars must be great. But are the live axle cars really that bad? The s197 appeals too me with looks, rear seat space for the kids and the power level. Is the handling really that bad, even on the super snake?
I have a 2011 GT500 that I’ve added LCAs and a Watts Link. The changes helped, but it is nowhere close to my IRS equipped Mustangs with regards to handling. Up through 2014, the GT500 has never been a “twisties car.” It has always been a straight line bruiser.
 

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But are the live axle cars really that bad?
The panhard bar with squishy rubber bushings can make the driving experience, let's say unpredictable, if you encounter rough road surfaces in a curve. On the other hand there's no shortage of aftermarket components to make it better. Besides springs, the rest of the Super Snake suspension is stock GT500. I beg to differ that it had bigger tires than the stock GT500. Alcoa shod Super Snakes were 275/35-20s.
 

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So I just watched Chris Harris drive the gt500 2013 vs the camaro zl1. The camaro was faster, better, but he loved the raw power and fun factor of the gt500. And fun honestly is my top priority. If I wanted to be fastest around a Track I would get an s2000 or an r35 gtr. But I just want to drive and have fun. Drag race every now and then, perhaps a track day a year. Hopefully that live axle won't kill me..

So back to the case. The kr is off the table. I'd rather get the stock gt500 for 57000 $(I know, crazy money here). But I love the 624hp gt350 for being a 2014 with full Ford performance suspension, and low production numbers. However the s197 gt350 does not look like it will be the big collectors car does it? And it costs 90.000$. The super snake is my favirote, but it's old, 2007. Being a 40th anniversary car it may have some collectors value, and it's only got 5000miles on it. Decisions decisions. I'll just need to test drive one of them and go from there I think.
 

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So I just watched Chris Harris drive the gt500 2013 vs the camaro zl1. The camaro was faster, better, but he loved the raw power and fun factor of the gt500. And fun honestly is my top priority. If I wanted to be fastest around a Track I would get an s2000 or an r35 gtr. But I just want to drive and have fun. Drag race every now and then, perhaps a track day a year. Hopefully that live axle won't kill me..

So back to the case. The kr is off the table. I'd rather get the stock gt500 for 57000 $(I know, crazy money here). But I love the 624hp gt350 for being a 2014 with full Ford performance suspension, and low production numbers. However the s197 gt350 does not look like it will be the big collectors car does it? And it costs 90.000$. The super snake is my favirote, but it's old, 2007. Being a 40th anniversary car it may have some collectors value, and it's only got 5000miles on it. Decisions decisions. I'll just need to test drive one of them and go from there I think.
Personally, I'd go with the SS. Beyond personal preference, theres no other real reason. The 350 may hold more value in the long run and be more of a collector item, if that's your thing, due to its low production numbers, later model year, and only being a "straight from the factory, special order."

If were talking fun factor, I think you'll enjoy that SS much more, but again, that could just be me. Regardless, GL on your hunt and keep us posted!
 
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The panhard bar with squishy rubber bushings can make the driving experience, let's say unpredictable, if you encounter rough road surfaces in a curve. On the other hand there's no shortage of aftermarket components to make it better. Besides springs, the rest of the Super Snake suspension is stock GT500. I beg to differ that it had bigger tires than the stock GT500. Alcoa shod Super Snakes were 275/35-20s.
The SS should have front and rear sway bars and panhard bar upgrades as well.
 

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My choice is the SS, unless the KR is red. Rarest color of the KR's
 

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