Thabks for that. I’ve added a 3.75 pulley to the list. I was looking at Whipple website and they claim you can make over 1k on 93 at 15lbs of boost. I would love to know what setup they were running.
Need Upgrade Help Advice (pulley, port, intake, tune injectors, headers)
So I'm fixing to start upgrading my 21 and I have a list of mods I want to do to it. I would like to get some feedback on what I need now vs what can wait to be bought and installed later. I've been reading and it appears that the fuel rails could be added later, and the Gforce axles upgraded later. Anything else I'm missing or other suggestions?
| Stainless Works headers | 2" x 3" headers |
| Lethal Performance resonator delete | H-Pipe delete |
| Nitto (front 305/35R20) | NT555 G2 |
| Nitto (rear, 315/35R20) | NT555 RII |
| Kong 108mm Throttle Body | 108 Billet |
| Injector Dynamics | ID1300x |
| NKG Iridium IX | LTR7IX-11 |
| Palm Beach Motorsport | Heat Exchanger |
| Whipple Superchargers | 1" - 1" Intercooler |
| SPE | IC Manifold - Whipple |
| SPE | Thermostat |
| LP Griptec | 2.5" Pulley Kit |
| Gates 8 Rib HD Belt | K080670HD |
| SPE | Fuel Rail Kit |
| Whipple Superchargers | Belt Tensironer |
| Jokerz Performance | SC porting |
| Gforce Performance | FOR10115A Axles |
| SPE | Vertical Links |
| Kelltrac | IRS Subframe Posi-Loc |
| Palm Beach Motorsport | Tuning |
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I'd say that's accurate what they're figuringThabks for that. I’ve added a 3.75 pulley to the list. I was looking at Whipple website and they claim you can make over 1k on 93 at 15lbs of boost. I would love to know what setup they were running.
Just as the kit comes 3.8 upper + supporting mods 2in AR headers (no cats) - could be a difference maker not sure & Borla Atak
1030whp @ 8000rpm on E85...
It could obviously make more being revved out further.
(N Texas basically sea level & 75° dyno day)
I didn't want to be revving to the moon. At least until I saw others proven (this one's been done since December) 6-7 months at that time there weren't many out there to bounce information off of.
It's a toy as in most cases here I imagine...
Can say I appreciate the 93oct flexibility (wanting to HPDE on more boost and exclusively to E85 or even short fun drives to me would be incredibly rough stuck on E85)
-Current state a FULL tank of E85 is good for 75-90mi
-93oct I'm able to get 100mi a TANK and can milk it a little more if need be.
On 93 I'm able to not freak out about finding the nearest station to fill up when out having fun.
Ported allows you to spin a larger pully as compared to stock blower needing the smaller pully to achieve the same HP numbers with less torque.
As I stated earlier, the DCT will hold a lot more than 800TQ. The 800-850 torque number is what should be watched for motor life not DCT.
The DCT will hold above 900. The DCT stage 1 upgrade will hold at 1100TQ and still act/feel like OEM (cost $5,000).
Heck, get a Hellion TT kit, a built motor, a SSP performance DCT stage 1 upgrade, GForce FOR10115A Outlaw Half Shaft Axles and don't look back. 🤣
As I stated earlier, the DCT will hold a lot more than 800TQ. The 800-850 torque number is what should be watched for motor life not DCT.
The DCT will hold above 900. The DCT stage 1 upgrade will hold at 1100TQ and still act/feel like OEM (cost $5,000).
Heck, get a Hellion TT kit, a built motor, a SSP performance DCT stage 1 upgrade, GForce FOR10115A Outlaw Half Shaft Axles and don't look back. 🤣
I hear what you’re saying but Ken Bjonnes and Sam Lipencott have both publicly stated that the limiting factor for torque is the DCT.As I stated earlier, the DCT will hold a lot more than 800TQ. The 800-850 torque number is what should be watched for motor life not DCT.
Yep 🙏the stock GT500 is damn near perfect IMO.
Made some changes after viewing some videos from Ken at PBD. Went ahead and decided to port the Whipple. Planning to run a 3.75 pulley for 93 tune and a 3.0 pulley for e85. Tuning will be done by Ken.
Has anyone swapped pulleys on their cars themselves? Whipple claims it’s a 3 minute job but can’t seem to verify that.
Has anyone swapped pulleys on their cars themselves? Whipple claims it’s a 3 minute job but can’t seem to verify that.
I’d call Ken at PBD and ask him, I’m sure they have a solid way to do it.Made some changes after viewing some videos from Ken at PBD. Went ahead and decided to port the Whipple. Planning to run a 3.75 pulley for 93 tune and a 3.0 pulley for e85. Tuning will be done by Ken.
Has anyone swapped pulleys on their cars themselves? Whipple claims it’s a 3 minute job but can’t seem to verify that.
It only takes like 3-5 minutes. This video will give you an idea, he replaces the pully and belt, but it shows Ken swapping the pully at the beginning.Made some changes after viewing some videos from Ken at PBD. Went ahead and decided to port the Whipple. Planning to run a 3.75 pulley for 93 tune and a 3.0 pulley for e85. Tuning will be done by Ken.
Has anyone swapped pulleys on their cars themselves? Whipple claims it’s a 3 minute job but can’t seem to verify that.
* This is a stock SC and a SPE pully (not whipple).
I'm at the mercy of the factory and extended warranty. Whipple is definitely the route I would like to take when I start upgrading mine but it it's in your face as soon as you pop the hood and I believe the kit requires shorter motor mounts. Discrete will be my approach.
Nobody can see a ported blower lol.I'm at the mercy of the factory and extended warranty. Whipple is definitely the route I would like to take when I start upgrading mine but it it's in your face as soon as you pop the hood and I believe the kit requires shorter motor mounts. Discrete will be my approach.
Well I found out today if I want to run the 3.0 pulley I’m going to have to swap belts every time. Stock pulley and 3.75 use the same belt but to go to a 3.0 takes a new belt. 🙄🙄
Why not go twin turbo? Less maintenance and better gas mileage. No belts to replace, no pully swap, less stress on the motor. You can change boost level with the boost gauge in like 3 seconds.Well I found out today if I want to run the 3.0 pulley I’m going to have to swap belts every time. Stock pulley and 3.75 use the same belt but to go to a 3.0 takes a new belt. 🙄🙄
Well honestly I never thought about a TT setup but it’s peaked my interest now.Why not go twin turbo? Less maintenance and better gas mileage. No belts to replace, no pully swap, less stress on the motor. You can change boost level with the boost gauge in like 3 seconds.
Well honestly I never thought about a TT setup but it’s peaked my interest now.
Hellion 2020+ Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Sleeper Hidden Twin Turbo System - Hellion TurboWell honestly I never thought about a TT setup but it’s peaked my interest now.
I’m assuming I could make some decent power with it depending on the turbo sizes. Anyone happen to know what power is being made with each turbos?
There is information out there. PBD has a few TT videos, heck even Kem moved to the Hellion kit after he tuned the first 2020Hellion GT500.I’m assuming I could make some decent power with it depending on the turbo sizes. Anyone happen to know what power is being made with each turbos?
Most folks go with the Hellion 64'66R T4 twin turbos. Large turbos take a bit longer to produce boost and smaller turbos have less room for growth.
If you tell Ken that you are thinking about the Hellion kit I bet he will get excited...
Stock engine and DCT in video (video is almost 2 years old). He has since gotten the TT down to almost perfection.
I bet Ken at PBD knows lol. Their base 62mm turbos can make 1K or more.I’m assuming I could make some decent power with it depending on the turbo sizes. Anyone happen to know what power is being made with each turbos?
Looks like I’ll be setting up another call with him. I was about to pull the trigger on the whipple next week until I heard about the belt change.I bet Ken at PBD knows lol. Their base 62mm turbos can make 1K or more.
After some back and fourth this morning with PBD, I think I’m going to stick with the ported whipple setup. The TT was going to be another $10k before install over that of the whipple.
Going to go with a 3.65 pulley for 93 tune and step down to a 3.5 for e85 tune. The e85 with the ported blower should get my close if not just over the 1100rwhp mark. Luckily they both use the same belt so a simple pulley swap will be as easy as taking out the 5 bolts.
Anyone happen to know what the drivetrain % loss is on these cars? So say if you make 1100rwhp what’s the HP at the crank?
Going to go with a 3.65 pulley for 93 tune and step down to a 3.5 for e85 tune. The e85 with the ported blower should get my close if not just over the 1100rwhp mark. Luckily they both use the same belt so a simple pulley swap will be as easy as taking out the 5 bolts.
Anyone happen to know what the drivetrain % loss is on these cars? So say if you make 1100rwhp what’s the HP at the crank?
To make 1100 whp i would guess you need 1170-1200 at the crank …..After some back and fourth this morning with PBD, I think I’m going to stick with the ported whipple setup. The TT was going to be another $10k before install over that of the whipple.
Going to go with a 3.65 pulley for 93 tune and step down to a 3.5 for e85 tune. The e85 with the ported blower should get my close if not just over the 1100rwhp mark. Luckily they both use the same belt so a simple pulley swap will be as easy as taking out the 5 bolts.
Anyone happen to know what the drivetrain % loss is on these cars? So say if you make 1100rwhp what’s the HP at the crank?
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