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Just wondering if anyone knows if adding a JLT no tune CAI to “the beast” (to make it “beastier” so to speak) will having any implications on the standard or extended warranty from Ford? Seriously considering undertaking if no issues.
 

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Just wondering if anyone knows if adding a JLT no tune CAI to “the beast” (to make it “beastier” so to speak) will having any implications on the standard or extended warranty from Ford? Seriously considering undertaking if no issues.
Zero issue. If you add a tune, you may or may not be headed to voiding your warranty. A friend of mine had a pulley/intake/tune on his 2020 and one of the cylinders ended up getting toasted... he was able to get a new engine under warranty!
 
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Pretty sure they send something with the kit that states “rest assured your warranty is safe” or close to that anyway. I put it on mine not too long ago.
 

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I Would be interested to know who tuned the toasted cylinder.
I know who did it... it was a local tuner. No one you would know unless you lived nearby.
 

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CAI's that don't require tuning are for cosmetics..
You don’t understand the 2020. Your statement was true with the S197 GT500.
 
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Just wondering if anyone knows if adding a JLT no tune CAI to “the beast” (to make it “beastier” so to speak) will having any implications on the standard or extended warranty from Ford? Seriously considering undertaking if no issues.
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Ford had " learning " computers in these cars going back to at least 2010. If the CAI does nothing, then your cars computer doesn't have to " change " anything. If the CAI changes anything, air flow, etc., your cars computer will make adjustments to deal with the changes. The computer " remembers " these adjustments, there is a paper trail..
 

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I think decisions concerning warranty coverage is predominantly the call of individual dealerships if the failure is not blatantly apparent. They've got some wiggle room as to how far they can stretch their decision. I also think a non-stock tune can give them ammunition to deny your warranty claim if something goes haywire. It all boils down to how "flexible" the dealership is when it comes to coverage.
 

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Ford had " learning " computers in these cars going back to at least 2010. If the CAI does nothing, then your cars computer doesn't have to " change " anything. If the CAI changes anything, air flow, etc., your cars computer will make adjustments to deal with the changes. The computer " remembers " these adjustments, there is a paper trail..
Incorrect! The open filter box and larger tube JLT flows better than the stock closed box unit. This has proven to add roughly 30hp during dyno runs on the 2020 GT500 without changing the tune. There is no “paper trail.” Simply pulling the negative battery cable will reset any adaptive learning the computer has done if you later wanted to put the stock intake back on the car. This last part would be the same with your 2014.
 

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Incorrect! The open filter box and larger tube JLT flows better than the stock closed box unit. This has proven to add roughly 30hp during dyno runs on the 2020 GT500 without changing the tune. There is no “paper trail.” Simply pulling the negative battery cable will reset any adaptive learning the computer has done if you later wanted to put the stock intake back on the car. This last part would be the same with your 2014.
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So if I understand you correctly, an owner could upgrade his blower, put long tubes on, change injectors, run race gas.
Then put stock parts back on, afterwards pull a battery cable, & Ford wouldn't know about those changes ??
 

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So if I understand you correctly, an owner could upgrade his blower, put long tubes on, change injectors, run race gas.
Then put stock parts back on, afterwards pull a battery cable, & Ford wouldn't know about those changes ??
You understand incorrectly once again. Swapping to a different supercharger and switching injectors would require the vehicle to be tuned. This is a different animal than a CAI that does not require a tune.
 

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You understand incorrectly once again. Swapping to a different supercharger and switching injectors would require the vehicle to be tuned. This is a different animal than a CAI that does not require a tune.
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You could put a 2.9 on your car & drive it without a tune,...............don't believe me, ask one of your tuner buddies..
 

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You could put a 2.9 on your car & drive it without a tune,...............don't believe me, ask one of your tuner buddies..
This thread was created by a 2020 GT500 owner asking if a JLT CAI would void his warranty. Whipple does not make a 2.9L supercharger for the 2020 GT500. Don’t make this thread about the 07-14 GT500... it is not. The 07-14 GT500s and the 2020 GT500s are different animals. Your knowledge is based on the 07-14 GT500.
 

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This thread was created by a 2020 GT500 owner asking if a JLT CAI would void his warranty. Whipple does not make a 2.9L supercharger for the 2020 GT500. Don’t make this thread about the 07-14 GT500... it is not. The 07-14 GT500s and the 2020 GT500s are different animals. Your knowledge is based on the 07-14 GT500.
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Fudged the #, should have been 3.8L.
The point being you can do several things to a car & not tune it. It isn't the smart thing to do, & you won't get the max benefit, but for people worried about a warranty, it's been done..
 

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Fudged the #, should have been 3.8L.
The point being you can do several things to a car & not tune it. It isn't the smart thing to do, & you won't get the max benefit, but for people worried about a warranty, it's been done..
There are many differences between the 07-14 and the 2020+ GT500s. One of those differences worth mentioning here is the 2020 is not a mass air flow car like the 07-14. It uses speed density. Like I said above, it’s a different animal. The rule of thumb for 07-14 GT500s was a CAI requires a tune to be a worthwhile mod. With the 2020 GT500, it has been dyno proven that you can add 30 rwhp with an intake alone (no tune)... and back to Tom’s question, the intake mod, sans tune, has zero warranty implications.
 

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That CAI with no tune 30,.....................with a tune 70,......2+ x the gain = worthwhile ??
 

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The big gain will be changing the throttle body also. The cai is significantly larger than the factory throttle body and until you increase that throttle body size you won’t see a huge gain. I’ve got a dyno and been checking out the strategy with my tuning software. I am waiting a while to put some more miles on my car. Then I’m going to do a apple to oranges test. The factory tune is a little conservative but no means pig rich. Commanding a 12.4 at Wot. There’s a little room to lean that out a smidge and maybe can add a degree I’d say a tune alone can net probably about 15whp but to be honest I’d rather keep mine a little rich. The claim i think is close to valid about the 30whp but won’t know until I run it. And like y’all have been discussing the 2020 is speed density much like 15+ ecoboosts and doesn’t depend on metered air. Where our other models depend on metered air so a change in the size of the air inlet automatically calls foe an adjustment of the transfer function. But it seems as if y’all have hashed it out.
 

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That CAI with no tune 30,.....................with a tune 70,......2+ x the gain = worthwhile ??
Many satisfied customers have done this mod on FB. If you are looking for extra horsepower with more supercharger whine that does not affect your warranty, this is the mod. If you don’t care about the warranty, getting the car tuned will net even more power, but that was not the OPs question. He specifically asked if adding the JLT intake without a tune affects the warranty. The answer is no, it does not affect the warranty. You incorrectly answered his question with 07-14 GT500 knowledge, which simply does not apply to this car.
 

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Incorrect! The open filter box and larger tube JLT flows better than the stock closed box unit. This has proven to add roughly 30hp during dyno runs on the 2020 GT500 without changing the tune. There is no “paper trail.” Simply pulling the negative battery cable will reset any adaptive learning the computer has done if you later wanted to put the stock intake back on the car. This last part would be the same with your 2014.
I've seen those gains on the dyno with the hood open and a fan blowing cool air over the engine bay, but my understanding was that the sealed box was chosen over the open element in the GT350 due to an increase in performance when the vehicle was at speed and keeping the filter shielded from the heat in the engine bay and where the direct inlet from the grille opening was able to keep colder fresher air supplied to the engine.

 
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