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It sounds like to me we have 3 blocks then. 15-17, 18-19, and 2020. News to me. Thought there was only two.
 

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I'm guessing there's a difference somewhere in that chain. If you note what I posted above, the part number indicates the block is on it's third revision with the A and B suffix.
Yes i did notice that and one was built in the USA and the B was in Canada and was lighter.
 

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So does anyone know if they stamp the block with the M-6010-M52x part number. It would be so much easier to just be able to look at my block and put and find out with 100% certainty.
 

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So this is really getting difficult, representative1 at FP says no the 500 has cross plane crank and 350 has flat plane crank. I wanted to say well DUH but I didn't. I said no, I'm just trying to understand if they use the same block, I understand the 500 crank is different and it is supercharged but the actual block and things they did to strengthen it. He said I need to send you to someone else.

Number 2 representative says sure why would they be the same, the 18 and 19 350 use the same block so why wouldn't they take use the 500 block. I said the 500 block wasn't really released in 18, so how could it be. He said the 18 and 19 are identical. I said ok, but can you confirm that, so now he's going to talk to the engineers and email be an answer.

Wow, that was exhausting.

Stay tuned.

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Agreed! Different person; different answer! This thread is reminding me of the Amazon spark plug order fiasco! Hopefully you get a straight answer somewhere down the line! I'm going with its the same as the 2020 GT500 block just to aggravate Eric and Tim! Maybe bossnine can find the answer.?
 

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So does anyone know if they stamp the block with the M-6010-M52x part number. It would be so much easier to just be able to look at my block and put and find out with 100% certainty.
Not with certainty, but no. That part number is Ford Performance's part number, but the service engine block will have a different part number. Doubtful you'll find that part no. stamped or cast on the block too. I found GR3Z-6010-E for a 2018 GT350 and R. It replaces the -C and -D blocks and has been discontinued. I'm sure the block is continuing to evolve and when old stock is gone, they're gone. Note the 3 different block part nos. by Ford Performance. Now, I did notice that the GT350 and GT350R service short blocks had different part numbers for 2018. I doubt any of the real information will be revealed unless someone writes a technical article or book from someone in the middle of the engine development. Hint - he's not going to be the guy fielding phone calls in the front office.
 

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Agreed! Different person; different answer! This thread is reminding me of the Amazon spark plug order fiasco! Hopefully you get a straight answer somewhere down the line! I'm going with its the same as the 2020 GT500 block just to aggravate Eric and Tim! Maybe bossnine can find the answer.?
Don't diminish how special all the 2020 cars will be. :) I don't even have mine yet.
 

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Ok here's the question Steve Horn at FP Technical Support Group asked the engineer:
Cust called asking if the 2020 GT500 and the 2018/19 GT350 use the same block?

Here's the answer from the engineer:
No, same casting. But different machined block.

I'm going to reply with some of the forum replies to see if I can get any more details.

Jim
 

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I suspect the GT350 doesn't need the longer head bolts, so I could see that being a machineing difference. Does the GT350 have piston squirters?
 

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I asked someone “in the know” about when the GT500 block started showing up in the GT350. Here was the response:

“The block casting is now the same, but the machined block is obviously different....I believe it started at the beginning of this year.”
 

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I asked someone “in the know” about when the GT500 block started showing up in the GT350. Here was the response:

“The block casting is now the same, but the machined block is obviously different....I believe it started at the beginning of this year.”
well that's kinda the same answer I got, let's see if they expand on it. I combined all the replies to dig a little deeper into this.
 

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.... but is it the same block as the 5.4 in my VAN ??? .... LOL :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

(I just couldn't resist .... )

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I have a well cared for, no previous issues, 2016 GT350 track pack with 1,400 miles, debating whether to trade toward's a friend's 2018 1,100 mile well cared for GT350R. He's waiting on a new GT500, therefore unloading the R. For those who may have had both, is the difference worth it? I won't be tracking it so the track times don't mean anything to me.
So I dont own a 350 or an R, but a buddy of mine has a '17(i believe) R and I've ridden in it a few times. It's a VERY stiff ride and from time to time the steering had a tendency to cause him to swerve a bit, not sure why. He was afraid to open it up and it handled well, which is to be expected. Its definitely very fast and, from what i could tell, streetable. However, the ride in my '14 500 w/ track pack is still much smoother. Hes ripped the front splitter off twice because of it being low and the streets in SoCal not being low car friendly. Still, that voodoo engine is nasty. The carbon fiber rims are a nice feature, but super expensive to replace. He did daily it for about 2 years, but was happy when he picked up a different daily driver. He said it was getting rough on him to daily it. Full disclosure, hes in his late 50's / early 60's. I dont know how helpful this is, but hopefully it's a bit of incite for you.
 

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So I dont own a 350 or an R, but a buddy of mine has a '17(i believe) R and I've ridden in it a few times. It's a VERY stiff ride and from time to time the steering had a tendency to cause him to swerve a bit, not sure why.
I believe you are referring to tram-lining. He probably has Sport Cup 2 tires on his car. @03reptile had the same issue with his until he swapped tires.
 
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Yeah, it would kick to one side or the other and it was always at random times and speeds. He never lost control, but it was definitely a bit sketchy
 

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I just reread what I posted originally. Correction... he WASNT afraid to open it up.
 

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To those who’ve owned or driven both a Gt350 and a Gt350R, is there really much difference in the ride?
 

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To those who’ve owned or driven both a Gt350 and a Gt350R, is there really much difference in the ride?
I have never been in a GT350 and don’t know them that well... I did a little digging for some answers and from what I saw, it looks like the gap between the base and the R model has narrowed significantly since the first year. Obviously the R has a CF wing as well as wheels plus it is missing a back seat, but it looks like the suspension is the same...? It also has the same tires and well as coolers that were reserved for the R previously.

@03reptile and @Evil_E would be able to fill in my blanks.
 

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I have never been in a GT350 and don’t know them that well... I did a little digging for some answers and from what I saw, it looks like the gap between the base and the R model has narrowed significantly since the first year. Obviously the R has a CF wing as well as wheels plus it is missing a back seat, but it looks like the suspension is the same...? It also has the same tires and well as coolers that were reserved for the R previously.

@03reptile and @Evil_E would be able to fill in my blanks.
The R does have slightly stiffer springs and does sit a bit lower. The magnaride is where all the magic is at.
 
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