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Anybody running this setup? Any opinions on this one versus the more expensive competition?
 

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I have heard nothing but good things about it, a lot of guys at the Team Shelby forums run it. I don't have it yet, but when it comes time to install a Watts, this is the setup I am using. I think it looks the strongest out of all of them, plus it looks more adjustable than the saleen.
 

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I have heard nothing but good things about it, a lot of guys at the Team Shelby forums run it. I don't have it yet, but when it comes time to install a Watts, this is the setup I am using. I think it looks the strongest out of all of them, plus it looks more adjustable than the saleen.
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I have one and would not hesitate to do the same mod again. It made my car more stable and predictable. You can read my testimony on Jims web site.
 

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Some have said that the Fayes unit is noisy. Can anyone deny/confirm?

It's a small issue but it sucks to pull up somewhere and have people say
"Nice car, something wrong with the rear end?"
 

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http://www.fays2.net/fays2_watts_link_18_.html

The company website looks good. Other than that, I have not seen any chatter on the boards about Fays2 (other than this thread), or any reviews in the mainstream mustang mags.

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It costs substantially less than a Griggs' watts link set-up. (http://www.griggsracing.com/index.php?cPath=4332_4309_4320_3685). The Griggs set-up has been reviewed extensively by supposedly independent third parties, and has proven itself on track. (see http://gr40cars.com/media/articles.php), and has gotten rave reviews from enthusiasts on various mustang boards.
 

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Some have said that the Fayes unit is noisy. Can anyone deny/confirm?

It's a small issue but it sucks to pull up somewhere and have people say
"Nice car, something wrong with the rear end?"
Mine has been on the car for a week now. No noise whatsoever, in matter of fact the rear end sounds quieter over bumps and expansion joints. The handling is greatly improved and the car tends to squat more under power and grab better even with the stock tires. Love it. Took me 4 hours to install and adjust after a short call to Jim about the axle tube bracket locations. I set mine up about 1" higher on both sides and the pivot down 1 notch to get my links parallel to the axles. Then I lowered the pivot 1 notch. No wheel hop at all. I do have billet lca's and a different uca bushing in the rear end with the stock uca. Car now handles like it should!!
 

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I'm assuming their products are much better thought out than their website? I couldn't even find a specific product/price page for the GT500.

I'm planning on the Griggs torque arm, LCA's and Watts link this summer. The underside of their cars looks better than porn! :pinklove:
 

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Will the fays watts link work with the FRPP handling pack rear sway bar?

I know that the steeda unit will not, and when I sent an e-mail requesting info about the fays part I never got a reply.
 

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Will the fays watts link work with the FRPP handling pack rear sway bar?

I know that the steeda unit will not, and when I sent an e-mail requesting info about the fays part I never got a reply.
http://www.fays2.net/index.html

Give Jim a call he will be glad to answer your question.
 

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Will the fays watts link work with the FRPP handling pack rear sway bar?

I know that the steeda unit will not, and when I sent an e-mail requesting info about the fays part I never got a reply.
Yes, it will work w/ the FR3SVT hand pkg.

If you get noise after the install chances are that the watts bars are not the same length or the bearings on the ends of the bars are binding. The voice of experience speaking here.

A side note: if your thinking of putting an FRPP axel girdle on in place of the diff. cover during or before the watt link use the M-4003-G2 not the G1. The G1 covers height is to much and interfers with the propeller on the watts frame.

I did my susp. in this order,first the FR3SVT hand pkg, then the Steeda billet LCAs, and finally the Fays2 watts link setup. With each mod the handling became better and better.

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Thanks for the info, 07NAJA.
 

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The Steeda billet lower control arms aren't worht the money and they do not work nearly as well as other cheaper parts available to us. They are just flashy and actually cause more bind in our rear exle movement than the stock rubber bushings. Stay AWAY from urethane bushings on both ends. It doesn't really matter what the arm is made of steel or aluminum but the big billet arms from some manufacturers forget one thing, if use use hard urethane to increase performance, you inherently screw end the rear end by increasing bind. Our rear axles move on TWO axis, and therefore a bushing that can only move on a single plane does not work. Simple as that. a large bushing can only move up and down, it does not have the ability to "twist" as our axles do when we turn. So in order to get around this they use softer urethane decreasing the potential increase from the arms. Go with a RLCA that has a hard durometer bushing on the chassis side with e rod end on the axle side to eliminate all concerns. They articulate perfectly and ride great on street cars! BMR, Progress, and Griggs make arms like these that cost much less than their billet counterparts and actually work better.

As for the Fays2, its not a bad parts, I have raced on the Griggs unit and love it! Their new quiet watts link works incredibly well on street cars too. However that being said, for the price the Fays2 it far better than the Steeda unit, and you can actually adjust it.

To quote the Saleen engineer when I asked him WHY you cannot adjust the center axis pivot for their Watts link and therefore for this to work properly you would have to set the ride height at THEIR specs ONLY...... He said "these are street car customers, they won't know the difference"
 

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Despite the fact that you don't like the Steeda billet LCAs,i would buy them again if i needed to. Prior to installing them, wheel hop was a serious issue. After the install the issue was resolved and it's never reared it's ugly head again. They have been on the car for two years and i've put 32k miles on them. We had it on the lift friday, i was cleaning the underside, and the bushings looked the same as the day they were installed.

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Its not a matter of "liking" the arms. If the billet arms had rod ends on one side I would say they were great! And I never said they do not get rid of wheel hop. In a straight line application they work fine, like I said. A single plane design. All I said was that there are better, lighter, cheaper control arms out there that work far better for our vehicles.
 

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...In a straight line application they work fine...
Griggs said the same thing. I noticed they don't even sell one with bushings on both ends.

Think I'll go with the BMR TCA021 adjustable lower "Street" control arms with poly bushing/rod-end combination.
 

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The BMR '021' arms work great and allow you to set your wheel base as well as straighten the rear axle to follow the front wheel axle line and even help with pinion angle. These arms are also adjustable without removing them from the vehicle making the set up go much quicker for the installer!

Shoot me an email and I can get you a quote on the BMR parts. Or the Griggs parts for that matter.

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The BMR '021' arms work great and allow you to set your wheel base as well as straighten the rear axle to follow the front wheel axle line and even help with pinion angle. These arms are also adjustable without removing them from the vehicle making the set up go much quicker for the installer!

Shoot me an email and I can get you a quote on the BMR parts. Or the Griggs parts for that matter.

[email protected]
Now that I know your website is not yet complete, I will contact you on future parts. I went to your website over the weekend and put in my car info but no suspension parts popped up, so I went to VMP. They had a picture of all 4 BMR LCA's but only one price with no description and I'm pretty sure it wasn't the one I wanted. Next stop was Lethal and I must say their on-line ordering process, and email notifications, was very impressive.

I'll pop you an email on future purchases and see if you have what I'm looking for.

Thanks again for all the helpful info!
 
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