: Has Anyone paid sticker for their GT500?
rsexton1 10-30-2006, 07:26 PM My local dealers want 25K over, another is 25K over to start for the silient auction, and one FL deal says 15K over....I live in CA but travel to FL.
Granted this is a just released new car that's generating a lot of attention driving up perceived value (supply and demand).
Anyhow, I suspect these dealer bumps will be short lived but curious what you guys are seeing.
dsabldvt 10-30-2006, 07:48 PM I am paying $200 under MSRP and I will be picking my car up this week or next. It was bucked on the 23rd and should be in transit I hope.
Kronus01 10-30-2006, 09:10 PM I paid 5k over sticker at a dealer very close to my house. I live in chicago so its a tough market to get one at sticker but I gotta say worth every penny.
Berzerk 10-30-2006, 09:31 PM Paid MSRP in August.
oldimp 10-31-2006, 04:01 AM My dealership is selling their allotment at $5k over, but one other local dealership got $23k over (I asked the owner about this one). This dealership has gotten two in so far and already sold. A third dealership has a black coupe that they are asking $25k over on. They at least said it was negotiable. The only other one I have talked to didn't have theirs yet, but expected to be $10k-15k over MSRP. That one may already be in town, I haven't checked lately.
Most folks are not excited about posting how much they have paid over MSRP unless it is one of the better prices seen. That is expectable and it is personal information anyway.
The guy that I mentioned that paid $23k over ($68k) for his Shelby was pleased with his price before he found out that my ADM was less. The sad thing is, he came to my dealership first, but about a month too late to get one! The good thing is, the richer car went to the richer guy!
In some cases the money is not an object. I wonder how that must feel?
Good luck in your search!
shlbysvt 10-31-2006, 05:12 AM MSRP in September but local dealer got 25K over for two units, a coupe and a convertible.
rpretzel 10-31-2006, 06:47 AM I got $2K over MSRP from a small non-SVT dealer way out in the sticks. They are trying to buy another Shelby from another dealer, but so far have not been able to find anything under $20K over MSRP.
cornfay 10-31-2006, 06:58 AM I paid MSRP on Oct 18th, small non svt dealer, just kept their word. They were offered 10k for their car and didnt sell it out from under me, very lucky bcuz I didnt have anything more than a verbal agreement.
RedShelby 10-31-2006, 09:54 AM I'm paying $10,000 over for mine. The original deal was for $5,000 over but dealers are calling dealers and offering $10,000 over so I got bumped in price to keep my order.
shelbygot2 10-31-2006, 11:19 AM My dealer told me they picked up 2 more cars at 10 over from other dealers, and plan on getting much more then that from the buyers. They now have a total of five, and all are sold. Paying over MSRP for most people is the way it will be. If you did not pay over "thank your lucky stars."
ShelbyTom 10-31-2006, 05:57 PM $12K over and worth every penny.
Most dealers in No Calif were 15-30 over.
snakebit 10-31-2006, 07:18 PM I ordered and put a deposit down on my GT 500 in March 2006, at MSRP. I was the first in line. Someone else paid 10K more the following week for Job 2. When I went to pick up my car, the dealer tried to "car jack" me for 10K more. I was pissed, but the car is everything you can imagine and much, much more. So I agreed to pay a little more than MSRP - pocket change in my mind considering that the car is literally mind blowing.
I have driven the car almost 200 mile in rain and shine, with and without the top down. Even my wife thinks it was a great deal. If you can afford this car at any price, grab one. You only live once. But, my image of the auto industry has certainly changed, and I am not surprised that Ford and GM are in big financial trouble. They are like a "snake in the grass". I will not return to the dealer for any service, knowing that more tire tread will be left on the pavement at the "friendly local dealership".
I will look forward to keeping this car my entire life. If you see one in person, you will know why.
Good luck trying to get any sleep without one in your garage!
Snakebit
shlbysvt 11-01-2006, 02:49 AM I ordered and put a deposit down on my GT 500 in March 2006, at MSRP. I was the first in line. Someone else paid 10K more the following week for Job 2. When I went to pick up my car, the dealer tried to "car jack" me for 10K more. I was pissed, but the car is everything you can imagine and much, much more. So I agreed to pay a little more than MSRP - pocket change in my mind considering that the car is literally mind blowing.
I have driven the car almost 200 mile in rain and shine, with and without the top down. Even my wife thinks it was a great deal. If you can afford this car at any price, grab one. You only live once. But, my image of the auto industry has certainly changed, and I am not surprised that Ford and GM are in big financial trouble. They are like a "snake in the grass". I will not return to the dealer for any service, knowing that more tire tread will be left on the pavement at the "friendly local dealership".
I will look forward to keeping this car my entire life. If you see one in person, you will know why.
Good luck trying to get any sleep without one in your garage!
Snakebit
It is not just Ford and GM. When gas prices were high, just a few months ago, you could not get a Honda Civic without paying a premium. Blame it on capitalism and the laws of supply and demand. We have no one to blame but ourselves for if someone is willing to pay a premium then there is someone who is willing to accomodate them, which in turn sets the tone for the rest of us.
Wirelessscottie 11-01-2006, 09:12 AM $12K over and worth every penny.
Most dealers in No Calif were 15-30 over.
I paid 20k over MSRP for mine and was glad to do it. I was guaranteed the car that I wanted without having to fret over it gong elsewhere. I paid cash for the car and never once felt taken advantage of.
The deal also included a signed contract for the dealers single 2008 and 2009 allocations at MSRP. At the end of the day I'm happy with the deal. 2008 will be a Torch Red Convertible and 2009 will be a black coupe (of course, this assumes Ford is still around to make them).
We live in a free market society and should be thankful we do. All this bitching about 'those dealers and their markups' is nonsense. Prices always meet what a buyer is willing to pay. Price controls have always proven to be disastrous. Indeed you can most likely get a better deal at an out of the way dealership, but, in the big cities, well, that's where the deep pockets are. Why is a dealershp trying to maximize their profits any different than members of this forum, when and if they sell a home, wanting to obtain every available extra dollar during the sale. I offer that there is no difference. Ok, off the soap box. Time to drive!
What I can say is the car is fabulous. When I drive mine I feel like a new person every time I get behind the wheel. Just about anywhere I go in the Shelby, when I stop it becomes a one man one vehicle instant car show.
shelbygot2 11-01-2006, 09:43 AM I know we are talking about 2007 shelbys but I wanted to give an example of what the price could do if a person wanted your car. I own a 67 GT500 that has gone up in price to the point I'm getting afraid to drive it. To that note I must say, I have received some offers that have floored me and almost made me want to sell. Shelby will tell you as he has told me " I never thought this car would be worth this much today". The car is worth what the buyer is willing to pay. If a 67 Shelby was not a car that was wanted by so many people, it would not be worth the price people are willing to pay today. The same will go for the 2007 Shelby, if they want it they will pay it. It's not that this is wrong ,but the way it has always worked when you have something a lot of people want. I feel very lucky to have the chance to own another shelby and am willing to pay the price to do so. If the price of the car bothers you don't buy it. Find somethig else that makes you happy.
ShelbyWise 11-01-2006, 09:44 AM I paid $5K over from a high volume SoCal dealership. They still have an allocation for a vert. There is a possibility that the GM is going to take that one for himself...if not, I think its going to go for around $20K-$25K over...:)
dsabldvt 11-01-2006, 11:11 AM I was getting my wifes Honda Accord Hybrid oil changed yesterday and while in the showroom I saw that they have a $5000 ADM on the new Honda Civic Hybrid!
rpretzel 11-01-2006, 11:58 AM I was getting my wifes Honda Accord Hybrid oil changed yesterday and while in the showroom I saw that they have a $5000 ADM on the new Honda Civic Hybrid!
I wonder how much of an ADM I'm going to have to pay on my Christmas goose this year.
rsexton1 11-01-2006, 12:45 PM Thanks everyone for you inputs and guidance! Sounds like a dream machine!
Was anyone been able to take the car for test drive ahead of the purchase? No dice here.
If not, would the Mustang GT be a close representation of the car's capabilities & handling? (except for the HP!)
Short story, my wife really wants to buy an anniversary gift for me, but I'm really picky when it comes to cars!
Thanks again,
Ron
shlbysvt 11-01-2006, 12:48 PM Thanks everyone for you inputs and guidance! Sounds like a dream machine!
Was anyone been able to take the car for test drive ahead of the purchase? No dice here.
If not, would the Mustang GT be a close representation of the car's capabilities & handling? (except for the HP!)
Short story, my wife really wants to buy an anniversary gift for me, but I'm really picky when it comes to cars!
Thanks again,
Ron
Don't be a fool take the car and run. Hell as a gift it's a no brainer. Are you for real?
ShelbyTom 11-01-2006, 01:10 PM rsexton...If you liked riding a bicycle would you buy a Harley because it also had two wheels.
A GT is NOT a Shelby.
I think i'm in love with your wife....
I agree with shlbysvt..."Take it and run"
07 SHELBY 11-01-2006, 01:38 PM Thanks everyone for you inputs and guidance! Sounds like a dream machine!
Was anyone been able to take the car for test drive ahead of the purchase? No dice here.
If not, would the Mustang GT be a close representation of the car's capabilities & handling? (except for the HP!)
Short story, my wife really wants to buy an anniversary gift for me, but I'm really picky when it comes to cars!
Thanks again,
Ron
There is a lot of difference between the GT and Shelby Mustang.I would take what is behind curtain #1.
cornfay 11-01-2006, 01:56 PM Thanks everyone for you inputs and guidance! Sounds like a dream machine!
Was anyone been able to take the car for test drive ahead of the purchase? No dice here.
If not, would the Mustang GT be a close representation of the car's capabilities & handling? (except for the HP!)
Short story, my wife really wants to buy an anniversary gift for me, but I'm really picky when it comes to cars!
Thanks again,
Ron
I took the car home and kept it overnight before I actually signed the contract and wrote them a check but it was also the one I ordered and had bothered the dealer about for 10 months, plus they know where I live:) :) . I guess technically I took it for a test drive but there was never a question of whether or not I ws gonna buy it.
If you are asking could a random guy go up to a dealreship and test drive one, I doubt it but anything is possible.
Oh yeah, your wife is awesome take the Shelby, even the people at the 2007 Ford Mustang GT Forum would tell you that
ShelbyWise 11-01-2006, 02:17 PM [QUOTE=rsexton1;5090]If not, would the Mustang GT be a close representation of the car's capabilities & handling? (except for the HP!)/QUOTE]
About as much as I'm a representation of Tiger Woods with a putter in my hand...:p
rsexton1 11-01-2006, 03:33 PM Okay, so I may have a mental problem.
I've had the pleasure owning/driving a BMW 540 and M5, along with three twin turbo Porsches. I love cars and have been without a performance machine for 2 years, 2 months, and 17 days; 996TT with X50 option. ~450 hp
The GT500 delivers everything I could ask for!
Okay, I have a mental problem.
07 SHELBY 11-01-2006, 03:45 PM Okay, so I may have a mental problem.
I've had the pleasure owning/driving a BMW 540 and M5, along with three twin turbo Porsches. I love cars and have been without a performance machine for 2 years, 2 months, and 17 days; 996TT with X50 option. ~450 hp
The GT500 delivers everything I could ask for!
Okay, I have a mental problem.
Buy the red coupe it's the fastest one!
cornfay 11-01-2006, 03:48 PM Buy the red coupe it's the fastest one!
oh man not again 07,:D
07 SHELBY 11-01-2006, 03:51 PM oh man not again 07,:D
Thats right I said I wouldn't do that again didn't I?Sorry pick any of them I love them all.
cornfay 11-01-2006, 03:57 PM Thats right I said I wouldn't do that again didn't I?Sorry pick any of them I love them all.
oh i didnt know you said that, I was just joking and waiting for rprez to enter this converstion all of the sudden.
rpretzel 11-01-2006, 04:18 PM Vista Blue is fastest!
rsexton1, does your wife have a sister? :D
rsexton1 - why did you get rid of your other performance cars? Is it because you need to have the next new performance vehicle on the block? Just curious.
shelbygot2 11-01-2006, 04:33 PM Buy the red coupe it's the fastest one!
Ok 07
The word lightning is sometimes used in reguard to speed or movement. As we all know lightning is also used as in lightning in the sky. If red is the fastest color then god messed up with the color of lightning. White with blue thats the way to go.:D :D
It's time to turn this thing off and take a nap.
rpretzel 11-01-2006, 04:48 PM Ok 07
The word lightning is sometimes used in reguard to speed or movement. As we all know lightning is also used as in lightning in the sky. If red is the fastest color then god messed up with the color of lightning. White with blue thats the way to go.:D :D
It's time to turn this thing off and take a nap.
The true color of combustion (e.g. lightning) is blue. The orange, yellow and red you see is due to impurities being incinerated. Therefore blue is fastest. :D
rsexton1 11-01-2006, 04:52 PM Yes, my wife has sister but she is married....
I had to get rid of the 996TT 02 to buy a house in Aug '04. Ain't nothing cheap in California.
So the Red one is faster than the White one! ummmm:D
This Forum is awesome!
shelbygot2 11-01-2006, 05:01 PM Yes, my wife has sister but she is married....
I had to get rid of the 996TT 02 to buy a house in Aug '04. Ain't nothing cheap in California.
So the Red one is faster than the White one! ummmm:D
This Forum is awesome!
NO NO NO-- red is out of the question, blue might have a chance. Go White with Blue, easy to touchup and very very fast.:D
rpretzel 11-01-2006, 05:02 PM Yes, my wife has sister but she is married....
Hey, I'm married too. I'm sure my wife won't care if it involves a free Shelby! :D :D :D
07 SHELBY 11-01-2006, 05:24 PM Ok 07
The word lightning is sometimes used in reguard to speed or movement. As we all know lightning is also used as in lightning in the sky. If red is the fastest color then god messed up with the color of lightning. White with blue thats the way to go.:D :D
It's time to turn this thing off and take a nap.
I already retracted my statement.I said I wouldn't go there.I do like most of the colors though.I will give you my preference.Red,White,Black,Blue,Alloy,Tungstun Grey then Grabber Orange..........................07................ .............
shlbysvt 11-01-2006, 05:28 PM I already retracted my statement.I said I wouldn't go there.I do like most of the colors though.I will give you my preference.Red,White,Black,Blue,Alloy then Grabber Orange..........................07................ .............
07 Where is Tungsten in the mix?:confused:
shlbysvt 11-01-2006, 05:29 PM 07 Where is Tungsten in the mix?:confused:
Sorry me bad. You did mention Tungsten.
07 SHELBY 11-01-2006, 05:30 PM 07 Where is Tungsten in the mix?:confused:
Hey you are'nt going to use this against me are you?I edited my previous post.I noticed I was missing a color....................07......................
shlbysvt 11-01-2006, 05:31 PM 07 Your color preference does seem to fall within preference of colors produced. Do you have insider info.?:D :D
shlbysvt 11-01-2006, 05:37 PM Hey you are'nt going to use this against me are you?I edited my previous post.I noticed I was missing a color....................07......................
Not at all 07. I thought it was me! Thanks for the correction.:D :D After all Tungsten is the fastest color. Well lets not go there.:p The Prez may give us some long rehash of Newton's law an so on and on and on.:D :D
shelbygot2 11-01-2006, 05:39 PM When it comes to picking a color for this car, any will do. I want my car now!:D
snakebit 11-01-2006, 07:43 PM As a business owner, I certainly can appreciate supply and demand. But what I am talking about is a surprise ADM at delivery of the car. Has anyone else been, "HOODWINKED"?
As a business owner, I certainly can appreciate supply and demand. But what I am talking about is a surprise ADM at delivery of the car. Has anyone else been, "HOODWINKED"?
Not gonna happen here-- traded a deposit for written declaration of ADM, signed off by Sales mgr. (Hope to heck it isn't ever necessary, but three attorney friends live on our street... only a phone call away.... I don't think any dealer wants to face treble damages in court).
With the frequent turnover of dealer sales personnel these days, a verbal agreement is only as good as the paper it's written on.;)
GT500Convert 11-02-2006, 12:47 AM I paid 2100.00 under msrp for my last Shelby. There are all kinds of cars avail for +15k over and less if you know how to look.
Actually quite a few under 10 over
I paid 2100.00 under msrp for my last Shelby. There are all kinds of cars avail for +15k over and less if you know how to look.
Actually quite a few under 10 over
Ebay prices coming down too... $10K over on this one today. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=110047919548&rd=1,1
It looks like several dealers on Ebay constantly attempting to trump up prices with pattern of 'zero-history' bidders going up over $60K.... but suspect in my mind because the same car is then re-listed a few days later.
HorseTraderDave 11-02-2006, 02:09 PM [QUOTE=rsexton1;5090]If not, would the Mustang GT be a close representation of the car's capabilities & handling? (except for the HP!)/QUOTE]
About as much as I'm a representation of Tiger Woods with a putter in my hand...:p
+1
The GT500 is quite different than the GT in many ways. The one thing that's somewhat similar is the interior. The handling is quite different due to the weight, springs, and so on. People have said the GT500 is quieter than the GT Manual , as they had to use the GT Automatic mufflers on it to quiet it down enough for noise standards.
Dave
ShelbyOK 11-03-2006, 08:35 PM As an owner of a 2004 Cobra under the PowerLease program, I was able to purchase mine at MSRP. Ordered it on 5/6/06, built in 6/06, took delivery 8/06. So far I have not had any of the problems noted on this forum.
I did have one question....The dealer that I used to take delivery from the factory told me that the on-board computer was set to require 50 start by the ignition before it released the full power to the engine. The said it was the same control they put on the Ford GT's to prevent the dealers and service tech's from running the pee out of them prior to delivery to the customer.
Has anyone else heard of this????
07 SHELBY 11-04-2006, 06:27 PM As an owner of a 2004 Cobra under the PowerLease program, I was able to purchase mine at MSRP. Ordered it on 5/6/06, built in 6/06, took delivery 8/06. So far I have not had any of the problems noted on this forum.
I did have one question....The dealer that I used to take delivery from the factory told me that the on-board computer was set to require 50 start by the ignition before it released the full power to the engine. The said it was the same control they put on the Ford GT's to prevent the dealers and service tech's from running the pee out of them prior to delivery to the customer.
Has anyone else heard of this????
After about 5 miles of continuous driving it will kick in.You won't notice until you jump on it.I think Shelbywise said it best,Drive it like you stole it.
mustang514 11-05-2006, 10:19 AM all my local dealers said between 20k and as much as 40k over and i would have to wait an undetermined amount of time. i bought mine out of ohio for 12k over and had it trucked in. i was desperate i did not want to pass on one of these. mid life crisis and all.
Okay, so I may have a mental problem.
I've had the pleasure owning/driving a BMW 540 and M5, along with three twin turbo Porsches. I love cars and have been without a performance machine for 2 years, 2 months, and 17 days; 996TT with X50 option. ~450 hp
The GT500 delivers everything I could ask for!
Okay, I have a mental problem.
Ummh....you can't really compare a 996TT to a Shelby or any Porsche TT for that matter. Totally different animals....hope you aren't disappointed.
wingless 11-11-2006, 04:36 AM It would be very cool if supply and demand converged. My plan has been to replace my daily driver in the winter of '08 and an MSRP GT500 would provide savings over the other vehicles being considered.
Even though the GT500 is very cool, it does not make sense, to me, to pay ADM on a vehicle. That $5K - $30K could instead buy more vehicle. Two other things would really suck, paying 6% state sales tax on the ADM and paying higher insurance, because of the ADM, only to know they would pay a depreciated sticker in a loss.
oldimp 11-11-2006, 06:38 AM It would be very cool if supply and demand converged. My plan has been to replace my daily driver in the winter of '08 and an MSRP GT500 would provide savings over the other vehicles being considered.
Even though the GT500 is very cool, it does not make sense, to me, to pay ADM on a vehicle. That $5K - $30K could instead buy more vehicle. Two other things would really suck, paying 6% state sales tax on the ADM and paying higher insurance, because of the ADM, only to know they would pay a depreciated sticker in a loss.
You make very good points about the ADM fallout. In SC, they charge a maximum of $300 for sales tax on a car. So, any new car would essentially have the same tax charge. I agree totally on the depreciation at a loss.
The difference between your situation (as I percieve it) and some of the rest of us is that we are not considering other cars! At least in my case, it was the Shelby or no car at all! I guess you would have to say it is a luxury, because I already had a great daily driver!
Good luck with whatever you decide to purchase!
ShelbyTom 11-11-2006, 10:43 AM Wingless..I don't think any of us bought our Shelby because it made sense or we could use the money to buy something else.
Besides what else could their be that is sooooo much fun to have and drive?
I agree with oldimp and ShelbyTom - I bought the Shelby because I wanted it and it is so much fun to drive. Did I like paying over MSRP - NO! - but it was the only way to guarantee I got the car. In the long run, the ADM I paid will be long forgotten. Regarding the sales tax, I didn't have to pay tax on the ADM because it was a behind the scene deal between me and the dealer and wasn't listed on the invoice. Also, insurance is usually based on the value of the car and not what you paid for it - in fact my insurer would only cover MSRP for the first year until they get a better read on the true market value of the car.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do with your next car purchase. All I know is that you won't regret getting a Shelby!!
wingless 11-11-2006, 07:23 PM In SC, they charge a macimum of $300 for sales tax on a car. So, any new car would essentially have the same tax charge.Thanks for clairifying that point. I knew there had to be a reason for people in SC, but I thought they were being paid.
I guess you would have to say it is a luxury, because I already had a great daily driver!Me too. I pass 100K miles in about 3½ years, so I'm always looking for my next steed, to rape the highways.
Every car and every manufacturer is a compromise of good and bad, including this one. Yes, I would have lots of fun with this ride. My wife and I are very competitive, so a big plus would be to have a little more horsepower than her, again, at half the cost.
Regarding the sales tax, I didn't have to pay tax on the ADM because it was a behind the scene deal between me and the dealer and wasn't listed on the invoice.It is so European to arrive at a business transaction with suitcases full of cash...
The difference between your situation (as I percieve it) and some of the rest of us is that we are not considering other cars! At least in my case, it was the Shelby or no car at all!Wingless..I don't think any of us bought our Shelby because it made sense or we could use the money to buy something else. Besides what else could their be that is sooooo much fun to have and drive?I agree with oldimp and ShelbyTom - I bought the Shelby because I wanted it and it is so much fun to drive. Did I like paying over MSRP - NO! - but it was the only way to guarantee I got the car. All I know is that you won't regret getting a Shelby!!My expectation is this passion is typical for those who plant their butts in MY 07 GT500s. The question is, how many consumers share that passion? Enough to consume the entire production run? Or will supply ever satisfy demand?
In my case, I'd enjoy this ride, if I can special order to my requirements at sticker, or I'll use the ADM (and more) for more vehicle and enjoy that instead.
oldimp 11-12-2006, 06:16 AM Nice post, wingless! Good luck to you whichever way you decide!
Funny replies, wingless.
.... My wife and I are very competitive, so a big plus would be to have a little more horsepower than her, again, at half the cost.
She's @ less horsepower for double the cost? Is she driving a Porsche 911 or Cayenne turbo?
It is so European to arrive at a business transaction with suitcases full of cash...Hey don't laugh! I want to do the same thing... question is can the IRS or local dept. of taxation sniff out this stuff or do I just withdraw extra $1000 from ATM every week for the next ten weeks?
The question is, how many consumers share that passion? Enough to consume the entire production run? Or will supply ever satisfy demand?
Ebay auctions are beginning to stall out at $8K - $12K over MSRP. Not ideal, but an improvement. A handful of used Shelbys are starting to show up on the market with 1K -2K miles on the odometer, which will have an overall effect of depressing prices of brand new Shelbys.
powersof12 11-12-2006, 11:54 AM Local dealers have been quoting $5K to $20k over sticker with settling at sticker projected by end of next summer. I am not sure how long this craze will last. Most Cobras eventually came down to A-Plan pricing here in Indy. I don't know if the Shelby's will settle back down in a year after this initial newness wears off. The trick is not waiting until Ford goes into financial trouble and stops making them. Heck, for $42K, I can build one sweet 1991-1993 LX. I still have a soft spot for a good 5.0L
ShelbyWise 11-12-2006, 02:28 PM Local dealers have been quoting $5K to $20k over sticker with settling at sticker projected by end of next summer. I am not sure how long this craze will last. Most Cobras eventually came down to A-Plan pricing here in Indy. I don't know if the Shelby's will settle back down in a year after this initial newness wears off. The trick is not waiting until Ford goes into financial trouble and stops making them. Heck, for $42K, I can build one sweet 1991-1993 LX. I still have a soft spot for a good 5.0L
I'm w/you...I really like the look of a fox bodied notchback...although I would never spend $40K-$50K to get one to go fast. The GT500 is a whole different animal and hopefully you get an opportunity to spend some time in the saddle of one...you will be sold, even at pricing beyond $42K...even @ $50K, your still damn near $30K below the price of a Z06 Vet...If you polled the owners of these cars, I would bet a dime to a donut that pure speed was not what led them to their purchase. The cars on eBay are starting to cool-off ever so slightly and the dealer pricing should follow suit. I really don't think we will see MSRP on too many more 07's (most are already spoken for) before the 08's are coming off the line and the whole thing may start over again...Just my .02 worth...:)
Wirelessscottie 11-13-2006, 11:59 AM (Hey don't laugh! I want to do the same thing... question is can the IRS or local dept. of taxation sniff out this stuff or do I just withdraw extra $1000 from ATM every week for the next ten weeks?)
Don't do it - pay cash that is. The dealer will be required to file a Currency Transaction Report with the IRS for any sale of 10k cash or above. Many dealers, fearing the fallout of a cash transaction, will simply refuse cash transactions. I even had a dealer refuse to take a 2k cash deposit about a year ago.
As for the ATM, banks have very clever tracking systems to watch for 'structuring', i.e., deposting or withdrawing sums of cash over a period of time. I won a $ 7,000.00 jackpot at a casino poker tournament about a year ago. When I took the cash to the bank, even though it was under 10k, the bank filled out a 'Suspicious Transaction Report' (STR) online, while I was standing at the counter! I asked the teller why the report. Her comment was that I almost never make cash deposits and the 'computer' automatically triggered the completion of the report - even though I showed the teller the IRS Form W2G the casino gave me. Interestingly enough, had I asked the casino for a 'check', rather than cash, my bank would not have raised an eyebrow.
I understand some banks have a threshold as low as 2k for filing STR's. The excuse I am always given is the 'Patriot Act requires us to do so'. Big Brother at his best
Ken
Wirelessscottie 11-13-2006, 12:31 PM [QUOTE=Aldy;5374]I agree with oldimp and ShelbyTom - I bought the Shelby because I wanted it and it is so much fun to drive. }
I have to chime in here. Having owned my GT500 about a month, and, paying 20k over MSRP, I am glad I did (buy the car and pay the markup). The transaction was flawless. My dealer kept me up to speed and the car came in as advertised and when expected. You can see my GT500 at www.mcleodscotties.com (click on the mustang link).
The car is fabulous. Everytime I drive it I feel refreshed and excited. Getting into the car is an event unto itself. The deep seats, the smell of the leather, the sound of the engine starting, all exciting events. The thrill of the drive is not soon forgotten. I don't race it or use it for speed contests. I drive the car because, and, now, you guys admit it, the car strokes my ego and simply feels good. If you don't think so, just look at Abraham Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs. Ego is the top of the pyramid, not money. And, living in Arizona, I have more than 300 days of sunshine to drive it (snicker)!
I laugh when I lurk on other forums and see derogatory statements about the GT500 - all from uninformed WalMart greeters who couldn't afford to purchase the air in the tires much less buy one. I chuckle at those who deride the car. Their knowledge of the GT500 extends no father than the beer can they just threw on the carpet of their mobilehome.
As an aside, I am installing the Ford Racing axle back mufflers. A car like the GT500 should SOUND like a GT500. The only other mod, happening this week, is a Pioneer AVID D-2 replacing the Shaker 1000.
I have an observation here in Arizona about the GT-500. I get the usual thumbs up, etc when people see the car. But, can you guess where the BEST ohhs and ahhs come from? It is Hispanic Males! I took my car to a local drive through brushless car wash here in Chandler. A crew of two guys, who know I also own a 2005 Mustang GT, have a small operation hand drying cars for tips. As I exited the wash, these two fellows started hand drying the GT500. We immediately began a discussion about the car. One of the guys knew this car inside out. Specs, HP, price, etc. He went on and on about what a beautifual car it is. I was impressed.
Later that day I drove to a local BBQ restuarant. Three Hispanic men were sitting outside taking a break. As I walked by them, they collectively remarked about how nice the car looked, asking if they could look under the hood. My stop for dinner became an ad-hoc one man car show. These guys totally appreciated the car. Compare this to a local Mustang car show I went to a couple of weeks ago. I was the only GT500 there and I felt like trash. Everyone totally ignored me. Jealousy I suppose. Conclusions? None. Comments? One. In Mexico there is still a strong and admirable culture of young men working hands on with cars, building things, being mechanical. I believe a car like the GT500 is truly appreciated in that kind of culture. Here in Arizona, well, auto shop is a thing of the past.
Has anyone experienced personal negative reactions to their GT500?
Ken
Wirelessscottie - I live in the Twin Cities area (and we don't have 300 days of sunshine) and have personally seen only one other Shelby to date. I think because there are so few of them in the area, all of the reaction I have seen has been very positive. I get thumbs up all of the time from other drivers and on several occasions I have seen drivers taking a picture of the Shelby with their cell phone. I even had a local Ford dealer stop next to me and tell me what a sweet car I had. When the car is in a parking lot people will come up to me and ask to see under the hood - and of course their next comment is WOW!! I have several jealous friends and coworkers who wish they had been proactive in getting a Shelby. I have yet to show up at a local Mustang event, but I think people that truly love cars are going to love the Shelby.
Aldy
rsexton1 11-14-2006, 10:49 AM It seems like more and more GT500s are coming available at least here in CA.
There are now 3 in CA's Central Coast, with dealer markups ranging from $20K to $40K.
Galpin has 6 at $85K each with one at $100K....third one off the production floor. black, red, blue, (2) white, & hugger orange
Anyhow, one will by mine one day soon. In the mean time, my wife purchased a Roush 427R to get me by.
Thanks!
Ron
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