Hi guys....brand new to the site!!
I currently drive a 2003 cobra vert powered by a whipple...putting 600 to the ground. I have reached my "mod summit" with my Cobra and am looking into a GT500.

I will ask the million dollar question (please don't bash me for this lol!).....can they be purchased for msrp?? If so, does anyone know where one is available??

Thanks,
Mick

Hi guys....brand new to the site!!
I currently drive a 2003 cobra vert powered by a whipple...putting 600 to the ground. I have reached my "mod summit" with my Cobra and am looking into a GT500.

I will ask the million dollar question (please don't bash me for this lol!).....can they be purchased for msrp?? If so, does anyone know where one is available??

Thanks,
Mick

Sure, I know of about a dozen at MSRP. post a pic of your cobra vert and dyno sheet in your name & I will tell you where there is a Shelby at MSRP

Sounds like I need to have 4 posts before I can post URL's....

I haven't been to the dyno since the whipple was installed, but cobra's with the same mods as mine have put out 590-605 to the wheels. I check my tune on street via a wbc.

I think you were busting my nuts...regardless I will post some pics.

I think you were busting my nuts...regardless I will post some pics.

...and if you weren't all the better!!

That should give me 4 posts...no?? Pics to follow.

http://www.digistash.com/showpic.php?uuid=3930&aid=4228&pid=112241
http://www.digistash.com/showpic.php?uuid=3930&aid=4228&pid=112237
http://www.digistash.com/showpic.php?uuid=3930&aid=4228&pid=99176

Here's one with my dd...2006 Jeep Srt-8.

http://www.digistash.com/showpic.php?uuid=3930&aid=7447&pid=111487

I think you were busting my nuts...regardless I will post some pics.


thats the same color combo I have coming, should be here any day now, I am getting mine at MSRP but I have had a deposit down for almost a year, good luck, try some of the small dealerships but I think it will be tough to find one without some ADM now.

thats the same color combo I have coming, should be here any day now, I am getting mine at MSRP but I have had a deposit down for almost a year, good luck, try some of the small dealerships but I think it will be tough to find one without some ADM now.

Ahhh...you must be getting pumped!! Yeah, I think it's very, very low odds in finding one...but, thought I would ask anyway.

Ahhh...you must be getting pumped!! Yeah, I think it's very, very low odds in finding one...but, thought I would ask anyway.

Nice looking car. What mods did you do?

I went by my local dealer yesterday to see if they still had the car for you.
They said they would take 2000.00 under MSRP so I ended up buying it myself

Thats the 2nd car they sold me at that price. Not much demand for them here I guess.

My dealer called me the other day saying he had someone who wanted to give me $5000 for my order which I got for $200 under MSRP, but I told him I wanted to keep the car for myself. But 1268 you really look like you need a good deal, so maybe I might let you have it for the $200, which would get you to MSRP. NOT!!!!!!!!!!

Nice looking car. What mods did you do?

I went by my local dealer yesterday to see if they still had the car for you.
They said they would take 2000.00 under MSRP so I ended up buying it myself

Thats the 2nd car they sold me at that price. Not much demand for them here I guess.


For real?? Where are you from??

Too many mods lol, it became a bad addicition. Here's the list..I'm sure I have forgotten some:

Whipple twinscrew s/c with stock 3.5 upper pulley, 4 lb. lower pulley, JLT 12" cai, JBA shorty headers, Bassani catted x-pipe, Borla 14858 catback, RWTD tune via SCT X-Cal II handheld tuner, Dynojet WBC, CCW wheels, BFG d/r's on the rear, Maximum Motorsports full length sub-frame connectors (welded in), Maximum Motorsports coilovers all around, 2000 Cobra R rear shocks, Billetflow IRS brace, Steeda IRS bracket, MGW shifter, Centerforce DF clutch with aluminum flywheel and 26 spline, Accufab large diameter throttle body, LFP Heat exhanger, Kenne Bell Boost a pump, Mafia, CDC cooling mod, CDC clutch mod, Fidanza firewall adjuster and UPR quandrant, window tint, various interior goodies, shorty antenna. I am sure I am missing a few things, but you get the idea.;)

My dealer called me the other day saying he had someone who wanted to give me $5000 for my order which I got for $200 under MSRP, but I told him I wanted to keep the car for myself. But 1268 you really look like you need a good deal, so maybe I might let you have it for the $200, which would get you to MSRP. NOT!!!!!!!!!!

BASTARD!!!!

lol...good for you man.:D

1268 if I had that car i would keep it instead of the GT500.
without mods on the GT500 you will be very disappointed in its power. dont get me wrong its a very nice car but for a 500 hp engine its a dog without mods.

2k under MSRP, if you believe that then I have some swamp land that I am selling in Florida. Its 2k under its apraised value.

1268 if I had that car i would keep it instead of the GT500.
without mods on the GT500 you will be very disappointed in its power. dont get me wrong its a very nice car but for a 500 hp engine its a dog without mods.

That's what I have heard.....they ain't too mod friendly as of yet.

2k under MSRP, if you believe that then I have some swamp land that I am selling in Florida. Its 2k under its apraised value.

Yeah, yeah.....I heard some guy bought a ton of it and built some amusement park way back when.:rolleyes:

1268 if I had that car i would keep it instead of the GT500.
without mods on the GT500 you will be very disappointed in its power. dont get me wrong its a very nice car but for a 500 hp engine its a dog without mods.

A dog? No...my 89' Volvo Wagon is a dog. I'm kinda curious what you have to compare the GT500 to (and how much did it cost?)...and how you came to rate it as a dog...:eek:

A dog? No...my 89' Volvo Wagon is a dog. I'm kinda curious what you have to compare the GT500 to (and how much did it cost?)...and how you came to rate it as a dog...:eek:

How bout a C6 coupe for $41,000??

Make that $42,900 (although I did miss out on one 1 month ago for $41,000).

http://www.kerbeck.com/kerbeck/kerbeck.nsf/corvette_special_offers

How bout a C6 coupe for $41,000??

Make that $42,900 (although I did miss out on one 1 month ago for $41,000).

http://www.kerbeck.com/kerbeck/kerbeck.nsf/corvette_special_offers

I can buy C6 coupes all day long for a helluva lot less than $41K with my GM employee discount...I think they'll even throw in a gold chain and a shirt to show-off my chest hair. There again, the GT500 is certainly no dog compared to an 'ordinary' C6 or a Z06 for that matter...and where I live, you can barely drive two blocks w/o seeing a new vet...I've said it before on this site...the only comparison between a C6 and the GT500 is kinda sorta in the price, but thats where it ends...Just my .02 worth :)

I can buy C6 coupes all day long for a helluva lot less than $41K with my GM employee discount...I think they'll even throw in a gold chain and a shirt to show-off my chest hair. There again, the GT500 is certainly no dog compared to an 'ordinary' C6 or a Z06 for that matter...and where I live, you can barely drive two blocks w/o seeing a new vet...I've said it before on this site...the only comparison between a C6 and the GT500 is kinda sorta in the price, but thats where it ends...Just my .02 worth :)

Even bettered my case...he asked what the guy was comparing it to and at what price. Performance wise the C6 beats it and the C6 Z06 would Destroy it. When my Cobra was made it could beat a stock vette....you can't say the same.;)

Even bettered my case...he asked what the guy was comparing it to and at what price. Performance wise the C6 beats it and the C6 Z06 would Destroy it. When my Cobra was made it could beat a stock vette....you can't say the same.;)

Reduced to its simplest form, the Vet vs. Mustang is an apples and oranges comparison. The power to weight ratio is killing the 4000 lb./4 seater Mustang...if all we GT500 owners wanted for our $50K was speed, speed and more speed I personally would have opted out...I've built many cars and for the nearly $50K out-the-door price of my GT500 I could build a car that would blow the doors off of either version of the C6 Vet...and the last time I checked, a Z06 stickered for nearly $30K more than a GT500.

Reduced to its simplest form, the Vet vs. Mustang is an apples and oranges comparison. The power to weight ratio is killing the 4000 lb./4 seater Mustang...if all we GT500 owners wanted for our $50K was speed, speed and more speed I personally would have opted out...I've built many cars and for the nearly $50K out-the-door price of my GT500 I could build a car that would blow the doors off of either version of the C6 Vet...and the last time I checked, a Z06 stickered for nearly $30K more than a GT500.

Not so...if you did your homework you would know that the GT500 was built for direct competition against the C6. I agree the weight is the devil here...but that's Ford's fault and no one else's...agreed?? You mention the Z06...the fact you are missing is that a stock C6 is a better performance machine than the GT500...there is no denying this, it has been proven. Th C6 Z06 will go down as one of the greatest US sports cars of all time...the GT500 will not. Believe me...I am a GT500 fan, that's why I came on here looking for a cream puff deal. However, every dealer around me is selling them for $15,000-$25,000 over sticker!! $45,000 sticker + $25,000 markup = C6 Z06!!!! I'm a Ford guy...mutiple Mustangs and Ford trucks over the last 15 yrs.....but I'm not brainwashed to the point that I can get suckered to pay extra for a Mustang with some old guy's name attached to it.:rolleyes: ;)

Not so...if you did your homework you would know that the GT500 was built for direct competition against the C6. I agree the weight is the devil here...but that's Ford's fault and no one else's...agreed?? You mention the Z06...the fact you are missing is that a stock C6 is a better performance machine than the GT500...there is no denying this, it has been proven. Th C6 Z06 will go down as one of the greatest US sports cars of all time...the GT500 will not. Believe me...I am a GT500 fan, that's why I came on here looking for a cream puff deal. However, every dealer around me is selling them for $15,000-$25,000 over sticker!! $45,000 sticker + $25,000 markup = C6 Z06!!!! I'm a Ford guy...mutiple Mustangs and Ford trucks over the last 15 yrs.....but I'm not brainwashed to the point that I can get suckered to pay extra for a Mustang with some old guy's name attached to it.:rolleyes: ;)

Honestly, you do not sound like a GT500 fan. I don't know how much "homework" I have actually done, but I have read just about everything that has come along about the GT500 and to say bluntly that the GT500 was built to directly compete with the C6 seems like a bold statement.

I paid $49k for my Shelby and I recently saw a Z06 at our Rick Hendricks dealership for $86k. I know these numbers by heart and they don't seem all that close to me.

I would love it if my Shelby could kick a Z06's ass, but the fact that it can't does not bother me a lot. This is the car I wanted. It can't beat this car or that one? Oh, well, I would still not trade my Shelby for any of them.

You have your opinion and a lot of us here would differ with that opinion. That is always going to be the case. My problem with your post is that you know all, see all and everyone that disagrees is a simpleton. No one would post so much negative stuff about a car on a forum dedicated to folks that are true fans of the car unless he just intends to create waves.

oldimp,

Could not have said it any better. 1268 and AC Cobra seem to come from the same mold.

WEll said OLDIMP

+1000000000......... Oldimp

oldimp,

Could not have said it any better. 1268 and AC Cobra seem to come from the same mold.




You need to calm down a bit and dont take it personal.
Its our opinion and you can still have yours.
I have owned other muscle cars including a shelby and i have raced my 2007 shebly
In stock form it is a dog ( no offense ) i think most people who have really ran it wont disagree.
just because you can out run a few lessor cars doesnt make it a fire breather with some good tunes it will do good though. And if all you will do with yours is drive and enjoy it thats good too
Read VMP's post about it and he says Ford greatly undertuned it
Im just saying in stock form it isnt anything close to what a 500hp car should be. Where i come form thats a dog ( no offense intended), im speaking only in terms of performance.
I can tell you this dont race a vette even a 400hp one they will smoke you.
again this is my opinion that I put on a forum which is full of opinions you dont have to make personal attacks becuase of it
I bought my shelby and really like it and will keep it im just trying to state what i think is true.

Honestly, you do not sound like a GT500 fan. I don't know how much "homework" I have actually done, but I have read just about everything that has come along about the GT500 and to say bluntly that the GT500 was built to directly compete with the C6 seems like a bold statement.

I paid $49k for my Shelby and I recently saw a Z06 at our Rick Hendricks dealership for $86k. I know these numbers by heart and they don't seem all that close to me.

I would love it if my Shelby could kick a Z06's ass, but the fact that it can't does not bother me a lot. This is the car I wanted. It can't beat this car or that one? Oh, well, I would still not trade my Shelby for any of them.

You have your opinion and a lot of us here would differ with that opinion. That is always going to be the case. My problem with your post is that you know all, see all and everyone that disagrees is a simpleton. No one would post so much negative stuff about a car on a forum dedicated to folks that are true fans of the car unless he just intends to create waves.


The C6 is the normal Vette not the C6 Z06!!!!!!!!!!! The GT500 was made to compete with the C6...not the C6 Z06. I don't say stuff without knowing what I am talking about. I came on here asking a question (I knew from the getgo was a little crazy) and instantly got my balls busted...not one of you...not one....said, "Hey welcome to the site 1268!!"

I am a GT500 fan and came on here asking where I could get one...someone asked the question and I provided an answer and obviously you guys took offense. If you really want to find out some info. on GT500's go on www.svtp.com or www.modularfords.com and you will find some die hard Ford guys who live, eat and breathe Fords....

The C6 is the normal Vette not the C6 Z06!!!!!!!!!!! The GT500 was made to compete with the C6...not the C6 Z06. I don't say stuff without knowing what I am talking about. I came on here asking a question (I knew from the getgo was a little crazy) and instantly got my balls busted...not one of you...not one....said, "Hey welcome to the site 1268!!"

I am a GT500 fan and came on here asking where I could get one...someone asked the question and I provided an answer and obviously you guys took offense. If you really want to find out some info. on GT500's go on www.svtp.com or www.modularfords.com and you will find some die hard Ford guys who live, eat and breathe Fords....

Hey, welcome to the site, 1268!!!!!!!!!! (You too, AC_Cobra!)

In defense of some of the comments here, you are on "FordGT500.com." You must have known that less than positive comments about the GT500 would raise the ire of some of the folks here. Many of us are very passionate about this car, and we do take comments personally.

Speaking to all, lets try to keep this civil. It's a perfectly valid conversation and everyone is entitled to their opinions. Let's just try to keep any personal attacks out of it. I'm not saying that has happened yet, but I've seen tons of these discussions degrade quickly. I don't want this board to get a "hater" reputation like certain other boards (svtp).

Hey, welcome to the site, 1268!!!!!!!!!! (You too, AC_Cobra!)

In defense of some of the comments here, you are on "FordGT500.com." You must have known that less than positive comments about the GT500 would raise the ire of some of the folks here. Many of us are very passionate about this car, and we do take comments personally.

Speaking to all, lets try to keep this civil. It's a perfectly valid conversation and everyone is entitled to their opinions. Let's just try to keep any personal attacks out of it. I'm not saying that has happened yet, but I've seen tons of these discussions degrade quickly. I don't want this board to get a "hater" reputation like certain other boards (svtp).

Why thank-you rpretzel...glad to be here!! Your point is well taken. I still want one only at MSRP lol!!;)

The C6 is the normal Vette not the C6 Z06!!!!!!!!!!! The GT500 was made to compete with the C6...not the C6 Z06. I don't say stuff without knowing what I am talking about. I came on here asking a question (I knew from the getgo was a little crazy) and instantly got my balls busted...not one of you...not one....said, "Hey welcome to the site 1268!!"

I am a GT500 fan and came on here asking where I could get one...someone asked the question and I provided an answer and obviously you guys took offense. If you really want to find out some info. on GT500's go on www.svtp.com or www.modularfords.com and you will find some die hard Ford guys who live, eat and breathe Fords....


1268 and AcCobra,
Welcome to the board.Everyone is welcome.It has been a little uneasy around here.I have had trouble with a couple individuals and I think some people are a little uptight.Rpretzel is right,don't let this turn into another hate board.You guys are to good for that...............07........................

1268 and AcCobra,
Welcome to the board.Everyone is welcome.It has been a little uneasy around here.I have had trouble with a couple individuals and I think some people are a little uptight.Rpretzel is right,don't let this turn into another hate board.You guys are to good for that...............07........................

Thanks!

as the world turns

My apologies to you 1268 :) My intent was not to bust your balls...assuming I'm the guy your talking about...and YES, I should have first welcomed you to the site before I went for your jugular...so hopefully a belated 'WELCOME' is not too little too late. It seems as though it continues to be debated the world over regarding a GT500 v. C6 comparison...Chevy has always touted the VET as America's only true sports car and myself for one always saw the Mustang v. Camaro as better baseline competitors, but it looks like we are going to have to wait a couple more years to see where that comparison ends up...I'll be curious to see if Ford will rise to the occasion and build a Mustang that will truly be able to compete with a similar car in weight and horsepower from GM and/or Chrysler...

My apologies to you 1268 :) My intent was not to bust your balls...assuming I'm the guy your talking about...and YES, I should have first welcomed you to the site before I went for your jugular...so hopefully a belated 'WELCOME' is not too little too late. It seems as though it continues to be debated the world over regarding a GT500 v. C6 comparison...Chevy has always touted the VET as America's only true sports car and myself for one always saw the Mustang v. Camaro as better baseline competitors, but it looks like we are going to have to wait a couple more years to see where that comparison ends up...I'll be curious to see if Ford will rise to the occasion and build a Mustang that will truly be able to compete with a similar car in weight and horsepower from GM and/or Chrysler...

Accepted. Actually it wasn't you...a few guys on the first page threw in some one liners. I'll be really interested to see how the new Challenger comes out...especially in an SRT-8 skin. My Jeep SRT-8 hauls some serious ass....I could only imagine what the Challenger will put out.

the SRT-8 is a dog

the SRT-8 is a dog

Don't knock it till you try it. Fastest SUV out there....BTW, it will beat your car stoplight to stoplight (awd will own you).:eek:

hahahaha, i couldnt resist, i do like them i actually was going to get one if my MSRP deal fell through on my Shelby.

hahahaha, i couldnt resist, i do like them i actually was going to get one if my MSRP deal fell through on my Shelby.

BTW...what are all those silly ass dates in your sig.??? Sorry, I couldn't resist!!;) :D

Oh those dates let me know how far along my dog is, and when I will be getting my dog, when 07 was able to give us dates you could compare your to someone elses to know when your dog would be YOURS approx. You would of known if you weren't just now trying to get one, at MSRP no less. Any more brain busters?

Oh those dates let me know how far along my dog is, and when I will be getting my dog, when 07 was able to give us dates you could compare your to someone elses to know when your dog would be YOURS approx. You would of known if you weren't just now trying to get one, at MSRP no less. Any more brain busters?

I know what they are numbnuts...I was was juz playin' ya DOGG!!!! :rolleyes:
It's just a car bro...you're acting like you're expecting a kid for christ sakes.

Sorry mods...he just keeps dragging me back in with his smartass comments.

the comments will keep comin as long as you keep settin me up "bro", its almost a kid, this is a 7 month waiting period, a kid is 9 months, suprised you didnt know that, you know everything else bro

Oh those dates let me know how far along my dog is, and when I will be getting my dog, when 07 was able to give us dates you could compare your to someone elses to know when your dog would be YOURS approx. You would of known if you weren't just now trying to get one, at MSRP no less. Any more brain busters?

BTW ... it wasnt 1268 that used the "dog" comparison it was me....but was just talking about the performance not the whole car. .....AC ( dogs best friend ):o

Thanks for clearing that up AC CObra, I wondered what took you so long to chime in.

Thanks for clearing that up AC CObra, I wondered what took you so long to chime in.

Havent been keeping up with the thread, have things to do. But that seemed like a hostil comment. Seems like your feelings are hurt but i didnt mean to we are just talking about cars here.

the comments will keep comin as long as you keep settin me up "bro", its almost a kid, this is a 7 month waiting period, a kid is 9 months, suprised you didnt know that, you know everything else bro

I hope you post the first date a C6 rapes your ass....now that would be a meaningful date in your car's life, no?? BTW...it will be the first C6 you run into...ahahaha!!!!

You can post the day your broke dick ass finally started looking for one at MSRP, BTW i bet its in 2008 at best.

Havent been keeping up with the thread, have things to do. But that seemed like a hostil comment. Seems like your feelings are hurt but i didnt mean to we are just talking about cars here.

nope not at all, no worries, we were talking about cars tell everyones new favorite member 1268 said something about raping my ass

nope not at all, no worries, we were talking about cars tell everyones new favorite member 1268 said something about raping my ass

That was two posts ago brainiac...you've been a prick far before that. If not wanting to pay dealer markup over MSRP for a car makes me a "broke dick ass"...than I guess I am. However, I would rather call it being financially smart. That being said, someone who cares so much about a car to compare it's building process to the birth cycle of a human probably will probably never understand that concept.;)

BTW...I would love to see your face the first time you face a C6. I bet the only thing that will be racing thru your head will be, "....shit, he's going to rape me!!"

hahahah your such a tool, i wouldnt expect you to intelligently respond or comprehend any comparisons made, your right again I wouldnt understand it the 9 month birth cycle process in comparison to how long it is going to take to get my car, will you post a link to your website, I want a copy of your book when it comes out. I bet it has a pic of you giving a C6 an hj. I never said it wouldnt beat one anyway, I could care less I am getting one cuz I want one, not to race a C6, you can go pump up your vette on another site,

And if you were worried about being financially smart you should of been trying to get one months ago like the rest of us, so to end your very first question, no you probably wont find one......still, but good luck trying and enjoy it if you do.

And no the only thing that will be running through my head is man which one of the 10 I have just seen should I race, they are all over.

That was two posts ago brainiac...you've been a prick far before that. If not wanting to pay dealer markup over MSRP for a car makes me a "broke dick ass"...than I guess I am. However, I would rather call it being financially smart. That being said, someone who cares so much about a car to compare it's building process to the birth cycle of a human probably will probably never understand that concept.;)

BTW...I would love to see your face the first time you face a C6. I bet the only thing that will be racing thru your head will be, "....shit, he's going to rape me!!"

i stand corrected, if there is really something wrong as has been hinted at on another thread you will be able to find a lot of them at MSRP or lower, hell you can have mine,

hahahah your such a tool, i wouldnt expect you to intelligently respond or comprehend any comparisons made, your right again I wouldnt understand it the 9 month birth cycle process in comparison to how long it is going to take to get my car, will you post a link to your website, I want a copy of your book when it comes out. I bet it has a pic of you giving a C6 an hj. I never said it wouldnt beat one anyway, I could care less I am getting one cuz I want one, not to race a C6, you can go pump up your vette on another site,

And if you were worried about being financially smart you should of been trying to get one months ago like the rest of us, so to end your very first question, no you probably wont find one......still, but good luck trying and enjoy it if you do.

And no the only thing that will be running through my head is man which one of the 10 I have just seen should I race, they are all over.

Cornhole...I just started thinking about one...hence no order months ago. Why bother racing one...you will lose. I can tell you how it feels to put bus lengths on them thou....;)

It's quite obvious that you are a young buck...all internet balls and no brains. Your grammar (or lack there of) backs up my theory.

no you just are not worth the time it takes to spellcheck, your right no brains at all, but my degree(s) would back up my theory, eat a dick, how is that for proper grammar

Guys,
This is enough.I don't have a beef with either one of you.It's getting out of hand.Put each other on your ignore list,please.There are a lot of people here that do not like this.I have members here that are complaining and rightly so.I ask you no more...................07......................... .

Guys,
This is enough.I don't have a beef with either one of you.It's getting out of hand.Put each other on your ignore list,please.There are a lot of people here that do not like this.I have members here that are complaining and rightly so.I ask you no more...................07......................... .

You got it...I won't respond to cornhole anymore.

Well, all this talk about C6 vs GT500 - I do have one question for 1268 seeing as he is knowledgeable on stangs (as he's got a nice cobra) - what would it take for a GT500 to at least give our chevy brothers a good run - nitrous bottle?

Well, all this talk about C6 vs GT500 - I do have one question for 1268 seeing as he is knowledgeable on stangs (as he's got a nice cobra) - what would it take for a GT500 to at least give our chevy brothers a good run - nitrous bottle?

I honestly don't know. I'm not a big fan of nitrous, but that might do the trick. Some guys on other sites have done a simple tune and catback and have picked up huge gains...these things will be beasts once the "mod code" is unlocked. The reason I want to get one at MSRP is so I can pump 10,000-15,000 grand into it and make it the real deal. Time will tell....if I had one I would start with a catback, midpipe, long tubes, tune, smaller pulley, cai...eventually a twin screw (whipple or the like), drop the bitch, new wheels, tint. It would be a sick dd to say the least.

Shit this car is running the same catback as a stock Mustang GT...all because it sounded better than the larger diameter exhaust they had planned. Back pressure is good, but if I had to loose boost to get a more efficient engine..that's a no-brainer. Throw on a smaller pulley and you are leaps and bounds ahead.

Well, all this talk about C6 vs GT500 - I do have one question for 1268 seeing as he is knowledgeable on stangs (as he's got a nice cobra) - what would it take for a GT500 to at least give our chevy brothers a good run - nitrous bottle?

I think even a good tune would do it for a C6. the one i raced just barley beat me. but beat me he did. I havent put my tune on yet, waiting for a few more miles. I have VMP's tune.

Just placed my order yesterday with Justin at VMP for his "tune" as well. :)

What does VMP mean?

What does VMP mean?

VMP is a tune shop in Debary Florida vmptuning.com

http://www.vmptuning.com

"About Us...We are one of the top 5 SCT dealers in North America.

VMP Tuning Inc, formally known as Velocity Mustang Performance has been in the Ford performance market for over 7 years. Started by Justin Starkey in 1999, VMP Tuning has grown to include many different parts and accessories as well as three full-time employees.

VMP's specialty is SCT tuning. We use the most up to date SCT software / hardware and the highest quality widebands on our dyno which guarantee's tuning accuracy. We have mail order tuned over 1000 vehicles and dynotuned over 500 vehicles on our Dyno-Jet 224x Mobile Dyno. Justin Starkey, VMP's tuner, worked at SCT for over 2 years as part of the technical support staff which means that he knows the in's and outs of the SCT software. His extensive knowledge base coupled with many hours of Research and Development on our dyno allows us to give you the best possible mail order and dyno tunes. We specialize in custom SCT tuning for all Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury vehicles.

We carry an array of other appearance and performance parts many of which are specifically made for the Mustang & V6 market. We are constantly adding products so that we can provide the most complete product line for our customers."

I think even a good tune would do it for a C6. the one i raced just barley beat me. but beat me he did. I havent put my tune on yet, waiting for a few more miles. I have VMP's tune.

Yep, I bet that would be a great start. A tune and lower pulley would be more favorable IMO (...are the rumors true that the Shelby is not mod friendly when it comes to swapping on a lower pulley...something about the snout design). I know JLT is supposed to be coming out with a killer CAI...he has built great units with outstanding results for the 03-04 Cobra's www.jlttruecoldair.com

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Excellent...glad to hear SCT is in the game. I have the X-Cal II for my Cobra and love it....so much easier with more options than my previous Predator. I hear some cars are picking up 40-50 hp on a tune alone....have you experienced that??

Here's some info on one Shelby Justin did...

"All runs were done on an industry standard Dynojet 224x, you can't fudge these #s like other dynos. 93 octane pump fuel was in the tank.

We ran the car 3 times stock to get the drivetrain up to temp and get a good average HP #. The car made 421/438, then 424/427, and 419/22. I would say the blower and engine are very sensitive to heat soak.

On every run we monitored air/fuel with two widebands, boost after the blower/intercooler, and restriction before the throttle body. We also datalogged a myriad of parameters with the SCT X-Cal2 and Live Link datalogging software.

The stock tune has no timing in it at all, it's really quite disgusting. With the stock tune the air/fuel came in a little lean below 2000rpms, ran 11.5 through the mid range, and hit high 10s past 5000rpm. The car makes about 9psi of boost in stock form, just like the guage on the dash says. With the stock airbox the MAF is almost pegged, reading 4.95v.

Now that we had some good data on a stock car we started playing with the tune. When it was all said and done we arrived at 482RWHP and 477RWTQ, no you're not reading that wrong, that is approximately a 60RWHP gain. This was not a money shot either, the car was ran 11 minutes before and made 481RWHP/476RWTQ on the previous run. This was no ragged edge tune either, the Air/Fuel was 11.5:1. I was not about to blow up a brand new and very expensive car just to be an internet hero. We did not have time to let the car cool for a money shot.

The best part is the car feels just like stock until you romp on it. A quick 1-2 shift can now get you in trouble, even with TCS on."

Nice looking car. What mods did you do?

I went by my local dealer yesterday to see if they still had the car for you.
They said they would take 2000.00 under MSRP so I ended up buying it myself

Thats the 2nd car they sold me at that price. Not much demand for them here I guess.

Please
tell me who to contact, I've had the money in the bank for a year now, waiting for the opportunity to buy. This is the car I want to park next to my '65 cobra. It will probably the last new car I buy, I hope to retire in a couple of years a couple of years and just enjoy my cars and play golf. niceasp98@cox.netThanks, Howard.

1268 if I had that car i would keep it instead of the GT500.
without mods on the GT500 you will be very disappointed in its power. dont get me wrong its a very nice car but for a 500 hp engine its a dog without mods.


Its quite obvious you have never driven a new GT500!

Its quite obvious you have never driven a new GT500!


He owns one....

Hey guys, I hate to interrupt all the arguing but I would really like to buy one of these cars! White with blue stripes, interior upgrade, shaker 500, sirius radio. I don't know where you find one at msrp but I've got the cash and I'm patient. If anyone has a lead or information as to whom I can contact please forward to me. Thanks, Howard. niceasp98@cox.net.

Hey guys, I hate to interrupt all the arguing but I would really like to buy one of these cars! White with blue stripes, interior upgrade, shaker 500, sirius radio. I don't know where you find one at msrp but I've got the cash and I'm patient. If anyone has a lead or information as to whom I can contact please forward to me. Thanks, Howard. niceasp98@cox.net.

Hi and welcome to the site...I honestly believe the MSRP deals on 07's are pretty much spoken for. You may get lucky and find someone out there who has an MSRP deal that no longer is in a position to buy, but if word got out about a situation like that, I think a bidding war would break out or else you would have to be the first guy to hear about it...People seem to think that some 08's will be had @ MSRP, but who REALLY knows? I paid $5K over and my car is in the garage...just about everyone who has to have one right now is paying over...the ones who aren't, have had their deals locked in for a significant amount of time. If you exercise patience, and/or are willing to find a very low mileage, already titled 07 once the 08's start arriving, you could probably end up with a 'like new' car...or start pounding the pavement for a dealer to lock in an MSRP deal on an 08...this may be tough though...because a dealer who made anywhere from $2K-$20K over on an 07 may feel there is $$ to be made on an 08 also...GOOD LUCK :)

Its quite obvious you have never driven a new GT500!

Yep i have one white/blue stripes. 2000 miles on it.. have raced a 2007 charger r/t,2007 C6 vett and a few imports. beat the r/t, got smoked by the vett, smoke by the imports from red lights. Yes I do know how to drive it. If you read up on the gt500 will will find alot of the same feelings from people with the stock tune. I dont mean it as a diss. Have also owned and driven a 67 gt500, sunbeam tiger(brothers), and a "A" code 66 hipo 289(now a parts car), and got to drive a real GT40( thrill)

Hey guys, I hate to interrupt all the arguing but I would really like to buy one of these cars! White with blue stripes, interior upgrade, shaker 500, sirius radio. I don't know where you find one at msrp but I've got the cash and I'm patient. If anyone has a lead or information as to whom I can contact please forward to me. Thanks, Howard. niceasp98@cox.net.


Hope you find one Howard, will look nice next to ur Cobra I bet.

Hope you find one Howard, will look nice next to ur Cobra I bet.

Right on, AC, I've had the Cobra for about 15 years now and have had it to Willow Springs Raceway, California Speedway and Laguna Seca and it still scares the crap out of me. I sold a motorcycle, a Porsche, a restored '67 fastback(damn that was a good car!) and a Z28. Then I took a second out on the house I had at the time so I could get the Cobra. Its dark blue mettalic with big white stripes, white center Halibrands, white side exhausts and big number circles with the number 98 on them in honor of Ken Miles. He drove the first Cobra I saw race at Riverside in '63 with that number on the side. I made up my mind that I would one day own one of those cars. I even had Carroll autograph the right side of the dash. You're right, a white GT500 with big blue stripes would look great parked next to the Cobra!

Right on, AC, I've had the Cobra for about 15 years now and have had it to Willow Springs Raceway, California Speedway and Laguna Seca and it still scares the crap out of me. I sold a motorcycle, a Porsche, a restored '67 fastback(damn that was a good car!) and a Z28. Then I took a second out on the house I had at the time so I could get the Cobra. Its dark blue mettalic with big white stripes, white center Halibrands, white side exhausts and big number circles with the number 98 on them in honor of Ken Miles. He drove the first Cobra I saw race at Riverside in '63 with that number on the side. I made up my mind that I would one day own one of those cars. I even had Carroll autograph the right side of the dash. You're right, a white GT500 with big blue stripes would look great parked next to the Cobra!

sounds like one great car. I have a 67 GT 500 blue with white strips and now have a 2007 white with blue on order. You will find what you want keep looking.

sounds like one great car. I have a 67 GT 500 blue with white stripes and now have a 2007 white with blue on order. You will find what you want keep looking.

Yep i have one white/blue stripes. 2000 miles on it.. have raced a 2007 charger r/t,2007 C6 vett and a few imports. beat the r/t, got smoked by the vett, smoke by the imports from red lights. Yes I do know how to drive it. If you read up on the gt500 will will find alot of the same feelings from people with the stock tune. I dont mean it as a diss. Have also owned and driven a 67 gt500, sunbeam tiger(brothers), and a "A" code 66 hipo 289(now a parts car), and got to drive a real GT40( thrill)

Haven't been on in a while, but since you said you were smoked by a C6, I thought I'd chime in. From a standing start, you're right...most of us will get beaten off the line by the Vette (I did...a couple of times...wheel hop!!).
But, when DRIVEN, the GT500 will pull a stock C6 from any rolling start-up to a little over 100mph (Did it, 4 times in a row, 2 different C6s). My car was stock at the time (sans Ford Racing axle-backs...thanks 07). There is only .5 hp per pound difference between the two cars (nod to the Vette at 9.14).
From a standing start, I was running a manual C6 with a std 3.42 rear. He stayed planted and simply left me. (Essentially) equal power and poorer aerodynamics assured I'd never catch him. Rolling start with the same cars was a different story. I'm making 400 ft lbs of torque at just a tad over 2,000 rpms. He wasn't. End of story til over 100mph when again the aero took over. The other rolling start was an auto (paddle) C6. I hammered him badly. And HE didn't catch up until I let off at over 110. Again, a TON more torque at low rpms and he had a 2.56 in the auto. No contest.

Finally, as for all the arguements about GT500s vs C6s....even a Z06, take a peek at this. At the end of the day, someone has sto DRIVE the car!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f2a42c97-9617-4e43-8fe7-985e00116b45.htm

bj

PS....Hi oldimp and 07!!!!!! Car's in the paint shop. Out in 6 more days!

BJ,
What's happening?Nice to hear from you.We should talk sometime,lotsa stories.Still have a job!I have a lot of info.............07....................

The way the Shelby is setup from the factory it is not a street terror. Don't get me wrong it is a great car and has good power but 500hp which is allot is not enough for the car being so heavy. The reason sport bikes are crotch rockets is because they are light with decent power. My Hayabusa with the current mods weights under 500 lbs and dyno with the new cams close to 190hp which is just crazy power weight ratio. Now the Z06, viper, GT40 they all have the same logic, they are lighter and have more power which makes them to me untouchable on the street. In fact the WRX, and the like are like street bikes, very light and have decent power which means their 300hp can run with out 500hp because of our weight. ( I hate the fact the car is FAT)
Anyhow I would say to even things up we need air intake, tune, and gears. Pulley/1 piece drive shaft/ lighter rims would put us over the top for most of the cars on the street. Of course if someone with one of the cars above did the same mods we are back to square one :) I am looking forward to computer, CAI, gears. Until than when people ask I tell them it is a beast but I don't truly believe it yet :(

Hey, BJ! Glad to hear from you! I hope your repairs turn out well! Let us know when you are on the road again!

Haven't been on in a while, but since you said you were smoked by a C6, I thought I'd chime in. From a standing start, you're right...most of us will get beaten off the line by the Vette (I did...a couple of times...wheel hop!!).
But, when DRIVEN, the GT500 will pull a stock C6 from any rolling start-up to a little over 100mph (Did it, 4 times in a row, 2 different C6s). My car was stock at the time (sans Ford Racing axle-backs...thanks 07). There is only .5 hp per pound difference between the two cars (nod to the Vette at 9.14).
From a standing start, I was running a manual C6 with a std 3.42 rear. He stayed planted and simply left me. (Essentially) equal power and poorer aerodynamics assured I'd never catch him. Rolling start with the same cars was a different story. I'm making 400 ft lbs of torque at just a tad over 2,000 rpms. He wasn't. End of story til over 100mph when again the aero took over. The other rolling start was an auto (paddle) C6. I hammered him badly. And HE didn't catch up until I let off at over 110. Again, a TON more torque at low rpms and he had a 2.56 in the auto. No contest.

Finally, as for all the arguements about GT500s vs C6s....even a Z06, take a peek at this. At the end of the day, someone has sto DRIVE the car!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f2a42c97-9617-4e43-8fe7-985e00116b45.htm

bj

PS....Hi oldimp and 07!!!!!! Car's in the paint shop. Out in 6 more days!


nice video, thx. wish we could have seen his tach.
The c6 that outran me was from a roll at about 45 mph. I had him at first but then he began to creep up on me before we hit traffic. He never actually passed me but would have. Said he was bone stock but maybe he had a tune ,dont know.

And by the way you better check the 2007 C6 im pretty sure it also makes 400 lb of torque

Hey, BJ! Glad to hear from you! I hope your repairs turn out well! Let us know when you are on the road again!

No repairs....it's all the stripes being custom painted. We're using a brighter (blue tint instead of red tint in the white, so it's more like white bond paper than the bit of yellow-ish from the factory) white on both the over the tops and the sides. BTW...to get a feel for the difference, put a piece of high quality bond paper up to the white stripes on a GT500 and you'll be blown away! White is such a bizarre color, but fun to play with. We're leaving the scheme the same, but finishing the stripes all the way to the trailing edge of the hood....to the mouldings on top...and to the leading edge on the trunk lid. All the paint will overlap so it looks like one big stripe.

I'm visiting her Saturday morning. It's a long process because they're removing all the parts, painting them individually....all the way down to the windshield and rear window.

CAI and SCT tuner will be here Monday. I should get her back next weekend.

bj

Can't wait to see some pictures of this car! I understand the color difference as you explained. And with the overlapping, this should be a real show car!

Hiya BJ,

Welcome back! Hope the paint job, tune and CAI go well. Keep us posted!

Scott

Well...just heard from my neighbor/good friend local Ford dealership owner. I asked him Friday if he thought I could pick up a GT500 this coming yr. for sticker...he said, yeah I believe you will be able to. He checked what the other's sold for etc. and said the best they will be able to do is $10,000 over.:(

I wish he just told me no from the getgo....we do a lot of business with them and they sold all their allotment to folks from out of state (maybe some of you guys). So I guess our doing over $100,000 + of business with them over the yrs. (sevice alone)...doesn't count.:confused:

...I guess our doing over $100,000 + of business with them over the yrs. (sevice alone)...doesn't count.:confused:

Short-sited sales & pricing strategies...the downfall of the American business world. :(

A simple price response curve can show you that unreasonable price increases may result in short-term margin growth, but they sacrifice future profits.

Short-sited sales & pricing strategies...the downfall of the American business world. :(

A simple price response curve can show you that unreasonable price increases may result in short-term margin growth, but they sacrifice future profits.

The never ending pursuit of the almighty buck....:mad:
I don't have a problem with $10,000 extra from a financial point (as I am going to be buying a quad and outfitting it to the tune of $10,000...I could not get it and put the money towards the mark-up in a heartbeat)....it's more that I don't want to pay it. So there goes my one shot at msrp.....I already have a call into my buddies' chevy dealership on a vette and am awaiting a faxed build out sheet to price one up. Dare I say....Ford lost another long time client today.:(

The never ending pursuit of the almighty buck....:mad:
I don't have a problem with $10,000 extra from a financial point (as I am going to be buying a quad and outfitting it to the tune of $10,000...I could not get it and put the money towards the mark-up in a heartbeat)....it's more that I don't want to pay it. So there goes my one shot at msrp.....I already have a call into my buddies' chevy dealership on a vette and am awaiting a faxed build out sheet to price one up. Dare I say....Ford lost another long time client today.:(

That's a shame, but proves my point. An attempt to make $55K on one car resulted in a future loss of $100K for a net variance of ($155K). If they were willing to sell it for $45K (msrp) today, they may have secured another future $100K. Seems like a no brainer to sacrifice $10K today to secure a future $100K.

That's a shame, but proves my point. An attempt to make $55K on one car resulted in a future loss of $100K for a net variance of ($155K). If they were willing to sell it for $45K (msrp) today, they may have secured another future $100K. Seems like a no brainer to sacrifice $10K today to secure a future $100K.

You know it as I am a Ford man...not a vette man, but I want a change and the c6 falls into my current price range (base vette without all the goodies as I will be putting in my own goodies: dropping it, new wheels, catback, longtubes etc. etc......;). For $55,000 that I would pay for a base GT500...I can build a killer C06.

I can feel your frustation but I have owned my share of vets and one thing will never change. They are plastic (fiberglass) bodies and over time it is like riding in a rattle bucket and that is as long as they are never in a fender bender. Then the real issue is they do not have the Shelby name tag. I do admit I am a Ford die hard but that did not happen by chance. Be patient and pay MSRP or spend the money and get it now. Just my opinion.

Cyrusappolo Where Have You Been?

Cyrusappolo Where Have You Been?

Cyrus I know you are on. With 07's gag order in place you could be the missing link in orders placed. We need your support. How about it?:rolleyes:

I can feel your frustation but I have owned my share of vets and one thing will never change. They are plastic (fiberglass) bodies and over time it is like riding in a rattle bucket and that is as long as they are never in a fender bender. Then the real issue is they do not have the Shelby name tag. I do admit I am a Ford die hard but that did not happen by chance. Be patient and pay MSRP or spend the money and get it now. Just my opinion.

Patience...not my best virtue. It's a kneejerk reaction...when all is said and done I will probably wait it out unless the vette really wows me.

I agree with shlbysvt - you can't worry about paying over MSRP for this vehicle. I paid in the low 50's for my car and would do it over in a heartbeat. It is so fun to drive plus all of the attention you get from other drivers. Even though I paid over MSRP I still feel I paid a fair price for the vehicle I got. If I waited until the 08's came out would I have paid less? Perhaps, but for me life is too short to worry about overpaying for something I know will enjoy for a long time. We all make choices based on our wants and needs - I wanted this car and was willing to pay a reasonable premium to get it.

1268 - good luck with whatever you decide to do. I'm sure you will be happy with either the Vette or Shelby.

I agree with shlbysvt - you can't worry about paying over MSRP for this vehicle. I paid in the low 50's for my car and would do it over in a heartbeat. It is so fun to drive plus all of the attention you get from other drivers. Even though I paid over MSRP I still feel I paid a fair price for the vehicle I got. If I waited until the 08's came out would I have paid less? Perhaps, but for me life is too short to worry about overpaying for something I know will enjoy for a long time. We all make choices based on our wants and needs - I wanted this car and was willing to pay a reasonable premium to get it.

1268 - good luck with whatever you decide to do. I'm sure you will be happy with either the Vette or Shelby.

Well said Aldy. Best of luck 1268.

Well said Aldy. Best of luck 1268.

Thanks guys!

It is very difficult to get reliable information over the net. I ordered mine at MSRP last March with deposit. When I went to pick up the car, the dealer added some coin to our previously agreed upon price - dishonest scum. I was not pleased, but the car is more fun to drive than a 2006 Viper GTS, which you can get now for the same price. I drove the car home in the rain with a "_ _ _ _ - eating grin". No regrets at all.

As a car enthusiast, I believe the car is worth much more that MSRP - shows you just how smart Ford and SVT was in determining MSRP. They should have done more research on the net and watched car auctions on cable TV before they set a low price to suck us dreamers into their mirage.

The car gets loose in 1-3 gears so far, and I am just "breaking it in".

I hope you find a car at MSRP, and just get it in writing, first.

Snakebit

It is very difficult to get reliable information over the net. I ordered mine at MSRP last March with deposit. When I went to pick up the car, the dealer added some coin to our previously agreed upon price - dishonest scum. I was not pleased, but the car is more fun to drive than a 2006 Viper GTS, which you can get now for the same price. I drove the car home in the rain with a "_ _ _ _ - eating grin". No regrets at all.

As a car enthusiast, I believe the car is worth much more that MSRP - shows you just how smart Ford and SVT was in determining MSRP. They should have done more research on the net and watched car auctions on cable TV before they set a low price to suck us dreamers into their mirage.

The car gets loose in 1-3 gears so far, and I am just "breaking it in".

I hope you find a car at MSRP, and just get it in writing, first.

Snakebit



Thanks man! I disagree in that I don't think it is worth more than msrp. I literally just put down $9,000 for a quad and some goodies yesterday that would have covered the markup on a GT500 my local guy quoted me @ $10,000 over msrp. I just don't believe it is worth the extra $10,000. Oh well, I will wait until spring/summer and see where they are at. I know I am being stubborn.....;)

Congrats on your car...glad to hear from another happy GT500 owner!!!