Hello All,

Contacted Steeda on Monday and they are putting the finishing touches on a cold air intake system for the Shelby. SCT has a map our for the car right now. Steeda also has a exhaust system that will fit on the Shelby. It is an axle back system the same that they run on the Steeda Q car. I have never heard the Steeda exhaust but according to Pat at Steeda it is the bomb. He said it sounds great on the Steeda Stang.

The exhaust part number is: 40130040 for the Shelby. Depending on what I find out about this exhaust in the next week I may go ahead and order it and have it waiting. If I can beleive the dealer I should have mine at the end of July or 1st of August at the latest...."this was his exact words"

I plan on some mods so I will post up on this site.

Bill

Yes sir. SCT has already sent us the software to be able to make tunes for the Ford GT 500. We are as excited as the rest of you. Now if only a few people would get their cars we could start sending out tunes!

I just got off the phone with C & L Performance asking about their status on a cold air system. They were expecting their local dealer to get a pre-production Shelby, but that didn't happen, so they are not were they wanted to be production wise. He mentioned that they hoped to have a model to unveil at the MCA 30th Anniversary Stampede at the end of the month.

Highlites of the conversation were 75 hp at rear wheels, two packages (one slightly milder than the other) that include supercharger pulleys. Both packages will result in similar hp increase, but the big one will target torque increase more than the other one. I didn't think to ask about the warranty being voided.

I offered for him to come to Charleston and use my Shelby! Ha!

He said that they would be updating their site about it, but didn't say when.

Good Info... The air-intake and remap will be the eastiest mod, especially if you have to undo it for warranty issues. Now pulley change that would require allot more work to switch back and forth if you have warranty issues. Can't wait for the air-intake & programmer :)

Did anyone mention that a decent CAI is good for 1.5lbs of boost? combined with a tune you can hit nearly 500rwhp. If you run a little race gas and a few extra degrees of timing its possible to go over 500rwhp.

Oh and these cars should pick up 20rwhp with a good break in. Most of the cars that we are seeing dyno #s from now have very few miles on them.

I just got off the phone with C & L Performance asking about their status on a cold air system. They were expecting their local dealer to get a pre-production Shelby, but that didn't happen, so they are not were they wanted to be production wise. He mentioned that they hoped to have a model to unveil at the MCA 30th Anniversary Stampede at the end of the month.

Highlites of the conversation were 75 hp at rear wheels, two packages (one slightly milder than the other) that include supercharger pulleys. Both packages will result in similar hp increase, but the big one will target torque increase more than the other one. I didn't think to ask about the warranty being voided.

I offered for him to come to Charleston and use my Shelby! Ha!

He said that they would be updating their site about it, but didn't say when.



Have you seen this guy?
http://www.paulshp.com/

bj

Hello All,

Today Sept 5, 2006 I talked to C&LPerformance and Steeda about an air intake system. C&L was waiting on someone to bring them a Shelby, well they finally got their hands on one to play with so according to C&L they are expecting one in November with a custom Tune of course. Now Steeda told me they are working on one as well and they hope to have it in 2 months (8 weeks). Normally you need to add a month or so when they tell you that.

Steeda does have right now a custom tune for the Shelby which according to the email they sent me is worth 35 - 40 hp. Another company which is big into this is http://www.alternativeauto.com/ check out that website they have some good info on a custom tune. Cost is $ 389.00 plus shipping. They use SCT programmer, they also lean toward C&L performance cold air intakes so when C&L does have one and they get their hands on it they will make another map for those who purchase the map and tuner now. They have a hand full of Shelbys right now running around with this map in it and have no problems. Since they are in MI any of you guys that are there could even drive to their shop if it is close. We have speed shops here but nobody that specializes in Fords like this shop does.

I am not sure personally if I should wait for the air-intake or get the tuner now, and which company should I be getting it from so far 3 compaines the link above (paulshp) (steeda) and alternativeauto. If anyone out there gets a tuner or has some hard facts on this subject please give an update.

This was working on me all day so I decided to call Steeda. Before I begin I want to clairfy why I am calling Steeda. There are at least a half of dozen or more compaines that have a custom tune for our Shelbys however I don't have any history with any of them so I am starting from scratch. Going to all these website and hearing that their tune does this and that.. I believe they are are speaking the truth. However I think Steeda is more in bed with Ford than any other company and because of this I feel this is the company I want to deal with. Other companies claim to make more power with their tune than Steeda but like the guy at Steeda told me there tune is not always making the most power but it is a tune that they have tested and signed off on that will make the most power without putting you at engine risk or running you on the bleeding engine where you might have an engine failure in 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years. Now I know anyone can tell you what ever but I tend to believe what he was saying. I found another company that claims their tune is worth 40 to 50 hp but that would be the tune that has everything at max and that is just a little scary for a 40K plus vehicle that I don't want to put a new motor in.
I ask the tech will I feel the difference after the tune, he laughed and said Oh Yes 35 to 40 more horses and up to 45-50ft-lbs torque he said you will notice it in every gear and every rpm range. They are working on a cold air-intake like I said before and this is what happens, if you buy the SCT programmer now and tune you enjoy the HP right now, once they come out with a Cold Air Intake than you have to send your programmer back to them and they would add another tune to it when using their air-intake. The programmer can hold the factory map, plus 2 others so you are covered in whatever you do. So once I get some more miles on my car (only got 367miles) on it I am going to go with their map. He also said that I did not have to wait to put more miles on it to use the map but I would just like to get 1000 on it to make sure no issues before hit the computer. Hopefully will have 1000 on it by October or November....I need to drive it instead of just looking at it. I will as always post up once I do it.

Great info, I will follow your lead & will be looking forward to your postings.

We finally got a hold of a shelby and were able to try some stuff:
http://www.fordgt500.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331

We've got a few others coming in for tuning in the next few weeks.

Hey, C & L Performance just called me about their Cold Air Kits! I called them yesterday and left a message and they returned the call!

They are closing in on the final designs, next week or so will have test units. They still don't have a test car, but are expecting it shortly. They will be testing mid to late November and are hoping to be in full production by Thanksgiving. My short hand is bad, so take all that with a grain of salt!

I mentioned earlier that the two configurations I was first told of both contained pulley changes. I specifically asked if all of their kits would include pulley changes and was basically told that there would be options for everyone.

I asked if they would consider writing something in an email to me so I could get the facts straight and open it up to our forum and I think that will happen. If they get something to me I will post it right away. They are anxious to get something out there for the GT500 owners as soon as possible.

Hey, C & L Performance just called me about their Cold Air Kits! I called them yesterday and left a message and they returned the call!

They are closing in on the final designs, next week or so will have test units. They still don't have a test car, but are expecting it shortly. They will be testing mid to late November and are hoping to be in full production by Thanksgiving. My short hand is bad, so take all that with a grain of salt!

I mentioned earlier that the two configurations I was first told of both contained pulley changes. I specifically asked if all of their kits would include pulley changes and was basically told that there would be options for everyone.

I asked if they would consider writing something in an email to me so I could get the facts straight and open it up to our forum and I think that will happen. If they get something to me I will post it right away. They are anxious to get something out there for the GT500 owners as soon as possible.



Thats great news.I would like one also but waiting so I don't get a lemon.I will let them work the bugs out.Keep us posted .

I 2nd that, the air intake will not have the issues, typically just a tube and depending on the Mass Air Sensor location should be straight forward... at least has been on other mustangs that I have used them. The real deal will be the the tuner. In the past they have been a big predator shop but since they have used Lidio Iacobelli of Alternative Auto for some tunes we might get the SCT programmer as a combo. You will need to remap or you will be running at a ratio around 13 or 14% which is dangerous. I am guessing that the air intake / tuner combo will be around $ 700.00 which is normal and well worth it. Rumor of 60+ HP with a safe tune nothing that is going to blow your motor is money well spent.

Also Steeda is working on the same combo. Both are great compaines, will just have to see what each is offering. I would like to see them both have one before I lay my money down. Hopefully others will be purchasing this. I hate being the only one on the bleeding edge :)

I 2nd that, the air intake will not have the issues, typically just a tube and depending on the Mass Air Sensor location should be straight forward... at least has been on other mustangs that I have used them. The real deal will be the the tuner. In the past they have been a big predator shop but since they have used Lidio Iacobelli of Alternative Auto for some tunes we might get the SCT programmer as a combo. You will need to remap or you will be running at a ratio around 13 or 14% which is dangerous. I am guessing that the air intake / tuner combo will be around $ 700.00 which is normal and well worth it. Rumor of 60+ HP with a safe tune nothing that is going to blow your motor is money well spent.

Also Steeda is working on the same combo. Both are great compaines, will just have to see what each is offering. I would like to see them both have one before I lay my money down. Hopefully others will be purchasing this. I hate being the only one on the bleeding edge :)



Busababy,
I will be right there with you.I will have 6 months to look and work on my Shelby during the nasty months.I am sure when she comes out of hibernation she will be a little more mature.You know the RED SHELBYS are the fastest and this will just solidify that fact.Don't worry Busababy I won't let you get to bloody............................07.............. .......................

I 2nd that, the air intake will not have the issues, typically just a tube and depending on the Mass Air Sensor location should be straight forward... at least has been on other mustangs that I have used them. The real deal will be the the tuner. In the past they have been a big predator shop but since they have used Lidio Iacobelli of Alternative Auto for some tunes we might get the SCT programmer as a combo. You will need to remap or you will be running at a ratio around 13 or 14% which is dangerous. I am guessing that the air intake / tuner combo will be around $ 700.00 which is normal and well worth it. Rumor of 60+ HP with a safe tune nothing that is going to blow your motor is money well spent.

Also Steeda is working on the same combo. Both are great compaines, will just have to see what each is offering. I would like to see them both have one before I lay my money down. Hopefully others will be purchasing this. I hate being the only one on the bleeding edge :)

http://secure-order-area.net/paulshp/cgi-bin/webstorecgi/webstore.cgi?page=900020&type=&frame=&cart_id=8496054_22394


bj

I called C&L, they told me the design was months away and to look for it in the mags when it came out (I asked them if there was a waiting list or if I should call back to check).

I dont plan on doing any re-tuning soon but have a question if and when i do. Will using a different tune leave any kind of log where Ford can find that a different tune was applied to the engine.

I called C&L, they told me the design was months away and to look for it in the mags when it came out (I asked them if there was a waiting list or if I should call back to check).

They called me Friday and told me they expect to be in full production by Thanksgiving. My short hand was not off on that part! It was a lady that returned the call and she said that she would turn the request for the email summary over to "Lee" who I assume is one of the design guys. I wasn't given any promises though.

I dont plan on doing any re-tuning soon but have a question if and when i do. Will using a different tune leave any kind of log where Ford can find that a different tune was applied to the engine.

I only have experience with one Predator tune that I put on my Mustang GT along with the C&L Cold Air System. And that was way back last year! If you are unfamiliar with the way the tuner works, it stores the factory tune in the tuner and gives you certain options that you can change. Mine had two options to go along with the C&L System, 91 and 93 Octane. Oh, and it will let you do stuff like cut off the limiters and traction control and allow for exhaust and underdrive pulleys and such.

I have to believe that if you take it back to Ford and they hook up to the computer, it will be easy for them to see you have a custom tune there. It was explained to me that if you suspect that they will be hooking up the computer, uninstall your cold air and reflash with your stock tune. That way, if they have come up with an upgrade or anything, your stock tune will be upgraded. Then you store that stock tune on your tuner and so on.

I only have experience with one Predator tune that I put on my Mustang GT along with the C&L Cold Air System. And that was way back last year! If you are unfamiliar with the way the tuner works, it stores the factory tune in the tuner and gives you certain options that you can change. Mine had two options to go along with the C&L System, 91 and 93 Octane. Oh, and it will let you do stuff like cut off the limiters and traction control and allow for exhaust and underdrive pulleys and such.

I have to believe that if you take it back to Ford and they hook up to the computer, it will be easy for them to see you have a custom tune there. It was explained to me that if you suspect that they will be hooking up the computer, uninstall your cold air and reflash with your stock tune. That way, if they have come up with an upgrade or anything, your stock tune will be upgraded. Then you store that stock tune on your tuner and so on.


thanks Oldimp. But even if you put the old tune back on will there be a log made somewhere in the system that will show the tune tune was ever changed?

Ford dealers have very little to work with in terms of computer tools. They really don't have a way to plug into your car and see if you have a tune in it, all they can really do is flash the car with the latest Ford update.

The computers don't keep track of reflashes or anything like that, contrary to what some users manuals may say (like the one that came with my truck).

Heard good things about Justin at VMP Tuning. Bill is very pleased with the tune he received there. See link below...

http://www.stangsunleashed.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3131

Placed my order yesterday with Justin at VMP for his "tune". Bill in the above post was first to have a Shelby tuned there and LOVES it! He has nothing but good things to say about Justin and the tune he received. No problems!

I'll post my impressions after install.

Placed my order yesterday with Justin at VMP for his "tune". Bill in the above post was first to have a Shelby tuned there and LOVES it! He has nothing but good things to say about Justin and the tune he received. No problems!

I'll post my impressions after install.


sounds good 08
from what i have heard even a very small upgrade in hp tune makes a hughe difference in the shelbys performance.
If you read the last newsletter from MCA there is an interview with the guy from svt that develpoed the gt500. He basically states that the gt500 and other new mustangs for that matter were made with the intention of having after market mods added and that they encourage it. The cars are over built for mods. My own opinion is that they have purposefully drastically detuned the gt500 so we would go out and buy the mods. From the MCA newsletter thats the feeling i got.

Interesting. That goes along with what Justin said about the GT500's stock tune. He said "The stock tune has no timing in it at all, it's really quite disgusting".

Thanks AC.

Busababy,
I will be right there with you.I will have 6 months to look and work on my Shelby during the nasty months.I am sure when she comes out of hibernation she will be a little more mature.You know the RED SHELBYS are the fastest and this will just solidify that fact.Don't worry Busababy I won't let you get to bloody............................07.............. .......................

You guys take the lead and I will gladly follow. Count me in boys as I know you will have done your homework before jumping in.;)

MCA printed an interview with Hau Thai- Tang in the October Mustang Times. In it he states the following- "Whatever Saleen, Steeda, Foose, 3D Carbon do it will only enhance the Mustang. It's going to be hard to screw it up. On the performance side, we wanted to be sure, and anticipate. Knowing historically the aftermarket will add on a supercharger, we make sure suspension, driveline, and transmission are rated for some buffer over. We know someone is going to put slicks and a supercharger on their car. We don't want them to blow an axle, gearbox, we design a margin of error. We give aftermarket open access."
Also asked how does Ford as a company really fill about seeing Mustangs modified? Are the new Mustangs engineered with the aftermarket in mind? Answered-- We embrace it.
This tells me that Ford knows people will put add on's on the Mustang and Shelby and embrace it. It also tells me that the Shelby was cut on power to make room for people making performance changes without hurtintg the car. Just a thought ,with some information to back it.

MCA printed an interview with Hau Thai- Tang in the October Mustang Times. In it he states the following- "Whatever Saleen, Steeda, Foose, 3D Carbon do it will only enhance the Mustang. It's going to be hard to screw it up. On the performance side, we wanted to be sure, and anticipate. Knowing historically the aftermarket will add on a supercharger, we make sure suspension, driveline, and transmission are rated for some buffer over. We know someone is going to put slicks and a supercharger on their car. We don't want them to blow an axle, gearbox, we design a margin of error. We give aftermarket open access."
Also asked how does Ford as a company really fill about seeing Mustangs modified? Are the new Mustangs engineered with the aftermarket in mind? Answered-- We embrace it.
This tells me that Ford knows people will put add on's on the Mustang and Shelby and embrace it. It also tells me that the Shelby was cut on power to make room for people making performance changes without hurtintg the car. Just a thought ,with some information to back it.


This car was built to be modified.Right now it is a fat pig!Everything about this car says,I need you man.I'd stick by this car anytime.Give me the extra $30,000+you pay for a Vette and I'd be happier in a Stang.No big mods with the car till you have 650 HP.I could make this baby rock...................07...............

not sure what that all means 07. The car rocks now, it will rock even faster with a few mods. In most cases people will never be happy with the horsepower they now have. As owners of high performance cars most of us are looking for a few more horses. As stated above by FORD we embrace it. That's part of the fun of owning a performance car ( add ons ).

Ford dealers have very little to work with in terms of computer tools. They really don't have a way to plug into your car and see if you have a tune in it, all they can really do is flash the car with the latest Ford update.

The computers don't keep track of reflashes or anything like that, contrary to what some users manuals may say (like the one that came with my truck).

Justin, As you know I was one of the first to use your program.
My car made 460 rwhp before the program and dare to say it makes an honest 500+ now.

I tested out the speed limiter and found the speedo needle hits the 160 peg and stops in a big hurry. According to the tach I hit 170+ mph in 5th gear well before redline. That was UPHILL! I would bet my car with just your tune would go 185mph easy. My prior fastest speed was 164 clocked by my favorite local Sheriff.

Any word on the cold air intakes?

not sure what that all means 07. The car rocks now, it will rock even faster with a few mods. In most cases people will never be happy with the horsepower they now have. As owners of high performance cars most of us are looking for a few more horses. As stated above by FORD we embrace it. That's part of the fun of owning a performance car ( add ons ).

Same. not sure what it meant either. But i agree with Shelbygot2 and i dont like getting out ran by a vett that doesnt cost 30k more than my shelby did. For alot of people the GT500 is great just the way it 1s. If there were no mods out there i would be satisfied with the stock set up.

Same. not sure what it meant either. But i agree with Shelbygot2 and i dont like getting out ran by a vett that doesnt cost 30k more than my shelby did. For alot of people the GT500 is great just the way it 1s. If there were no mods out there i would be satisfied with the stock set up.

I'm satisfied and I don't even have my car yet.

I am waiting also for the air intake. I want to do both of them together. If you do the tune first and you put an air intake on, than another tune will have to follow. Now if I wasn't worried about the air box than I would do the tune and gears and leave it... well maybe the pulley and that would be fine for me.. but knowing that the air box is not allowing the motor to breath it is a must to get that replaced. I wonder how Steeda or CNL performance is coming along with the cold air intake ???? I have a birthday soon and nothing would make me happier :)

There are no parts avail yet! Please someone have a CAI kit ready by turkey day.

I am waiting also for the air intake. I want to do both of them together. If you do the tune first and you put an air intake on, than another tune will have to follow. Now if I wasn't worried about the air box than I would do the tune and gears and leave it... well maybe the pulley and that would be fine for me.. but knowing that the air box is not allowing the motor to breath it is a must to get that replaced. I wonder how Steeda or CNL performance is coming along with the cold air intake ???? I have a birthday soon and nothing would make me happier :)

check outhttp://www.paulshp.com.for his tunes. I think he has CAI with it but doesnt say as much hp gain as VMP.

Justin, As you know I was one of the first to use your program.
My car made 460 rwhp before the program and dare to say it makes an honest 500+ now.

I tested out the speed limiter and found the speedo needle hits the 160 peg and stops in a big hurry. According to the tach I hit 170+ mph in 5th gear well before redline. That was UPHILL! I would bet my car with just your tune would go 185mph easy. My prior fastest speed was 164 clocked by my favorite local Sheriff.

Any word on the cold air intakes?

Hey, I should have something ready in the next week or two.

Looking forward to it, since it is not out yet and your in the design stage try to incorporate a heat shield around the air filter. I had a early design air intake on one of my vehicles and it had no heat shield, once engine was warm I was sucking hot air into the motor and I think I made less power when that happend, because after 30 minutes of driving it just did not seem as strong. One thing about this motor shoe horned into the engine bay is DAMN does it put out some heat as all the owners know. I park it in the garage and 4 hours later the hood is still warm :eek: I can image what that will do with the cold air intake setup :(

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busababy.............Car looks great with all those add on's...color is great .....hope i didn't make a mistake changing my color choice from Red/ with white strips ...tp Ebony w/ Tungsten strips quite a change......wanted to ask how you like the sound of the axel backs from ford racing, I'm thinking of going to them also , when the car arrives in the next week or so.......let me know what you think ....thanks,,,,,

You will not be disappointed. Everyone that hears it loves it. Also the exhaust is allot lighter than factory. With the mufflers from the factory I have to believe the new setup lets the motor breath allot more which means more power... and you know I like that.

Busababy - Do you have a Part Number for them and did you get them from the dealer (the rear Ford Racing Mufflers)?

Do a search for exhaust 07 Shelby had a part number and a place to purchase it at in one of his posts. He found a place that he deals with and it was cheaper than anywhere else at the time. I think mine was $ 389.00 plus shipping.

Thanks...

Thanks...



Nynd500,
The thread is "Steeda axle backs".Here is one of my posts.

I ordered my Axle Backs from Ford Motor Sports today.Ford Motor Sports does have them for $389.00.Part #M52305GT.Same as Steeda made by Borla.The only difference is the stamping on the mufflers.

OK, here is an email sent to me by my good Roush buddy, Phil, about what Roush Performance has instore for GT500 owners! I am going to have to convince my better half that I absolutely need the 120 HP kit!


For Immediate Release

GT500 OWNERS CAN PUSH 700 HORSEPOWER WITH NEW ROUSHCHARGER*

LIVONIA, Mich. (October 23, 2006) - Owners of the new Ford GT500 are a proud group - proud of the car and proud of the 500 horsepower that comes with the stock engine. But the engineers at ROUSH Performance, the leader in Ford powertrain development and all things high-performance, are ready to unveil a new ROUSHcharger* that can boost the performance
over the edge with up to 700 horsepower.

The GT500 ROUSHcharger* will be offered in three different kits. The simplest upgrade is the addition of a Cold Air Kit with new calibration which nets 45 horsepower.

The next step is including the 2.3L blower in a package which adds 120 horsepower and 88 lb.-ft. torque while keeping a 3-year/36,000 mile warranty. This warranty will not void any offered by the factory. This kit includes the ROUSHcharger*, a 78mm non-removable pulley and new calibration.

For those living on the wild side, a non-warranty version will also be offered for off-road use, and this version is anticipated to push the GT500 engine to a mind-boggling 700 horsepower, 200 more than the stock engine. Customers will have to purchase a 72mm or 76mm pulley separately, and this version does not include an upgraded calibration. Other modifications may be necessary in order to maximize the horsepower gains.

"Our engineers have really pushed the envelope with this ROUSHcharger* and I think it is a credit to them to get as much as 200 horsepower out of the GT500 engine," said Jack Roush. "We are expecting that there will be a certain number of Shelby owners who intend to keep their car in stock condition, but there are also going to be those who want to push
that envelope and have bragging rights over their friends. From mild to wild, we can help them get where they want to go with horsepower. It all depends on if they want the peace-of-mind of having a warranty, or go right to the edge and let it all hang out."

The GT500 ROUSHcharger* is a new derivative design from the current roots-style applications currently on the market and features a considerable improvement in both airflow and efficiency. The bottom line is the more airflow, the more power. Noteworthy is that this is the first application that will be incorporating this new technology, both on the OE and aftermarket side.

The cold air intake kit considerably reduces pressure drop across the stock air box and filter element. It comes with a high-flow, large 6-inch conical filter and the rotomolded airbox seals to the hood to reduce leakage. Again, the bottom line is less loss equals more airflow which results in more power.

Available in black or chrome polished, the GT500 ROUSHcharger* kits should be available by the end of the year. Pricing is still to be determined. For more information, visit www.RoushPerformance.com or call 800-59-ROUSH. A signup form is available to be automatically notified when these kits become available.

Based in Livonia, Mich., "The Art of Performance Engineering" takes place at ROUSH Performance. In addition to the Stage 1, Stage 2 and Stage 3 Ford Mustang and F-150 styling, handling and performance upgrades, a complete line of performance parts and engines are offered. For more information on the ROUSH painted parts program, or any of the other products, visit www.RoushPerformance.com or telephone toll-free (800) 59-ROUSH.

any idea on prices?

any idea on prices?

No prices yet but, you can go to their site and register for news as to when it is available and all.

No prices yet but, you can go to their site and register for news as to when it is available and all.

awesome thanks oldimp for keeping us all posted, I will def. do that.

Thanks 07!

"Other modifications may be necessary in order to maximize the horsepower
gains."

With 700 hp I would guess those "other modifications that may be necessary" are the Rods!

"Other modifications may be necessary in order to maximize the horsepower
gains."

With 700 hp I would guess those "other modifications that may be necessary" are the Rods!

I think the rear axle was designed for 650hp,tires will probably need replacing to some street slicks and more stiffening of the body.

And I thought I read somewhere that the Tremec 6060 Trans and clutch assy. was good to about 600-650 h.p...it might have been in the Tremec supplement in the PDI...anyone else read this?? :confused:

And I thought I read somewhere that the Tremec 6060 Trans and clutch assy. was good to about 600-650 h.p...it might have been in the Tremec supplement in the PDI...anyone else read this?? :confused:



Shelbywise,
I just noticed you changed your Avatar.I am used to you being red.The white looks good though.

Shelbywise,
I just noticed you changed your Avatar.I am used to you being red.The white looks good though.

My old pal 07,

Actually, the white looks really great!

Your old pal,

LH

My old pal 07,

Actually, the white looks really great!

Your old pal,

LH



LH,
He just looks a little slugish in white.He used to look a little quicker on his feet before.
BK

Shelbywise,
I just noticed you changed your Avatar.I am used to you being red.The white looks good though.

Got tired of seeing red...I told you before, I'm way illiterate when it comes to photoshopping pix and I couldn't figure out how to show the white car leading the red...so I did the next best thing, I put my fat self up there :p Maybe we performance white car owners could get 'LOOK N GO' to do a cartoon of a white car leading a red...the red car would have to be full of chickens and have so much chicken shit splattered on the outside that it could barely move :eek:

OK, competition time! C&L just put this up on their site:


2007 SHELBY GT500 TRUEFLOW POWER PACKAGES
10/17/06 - C&L is proud to announce that we are hard at work putting the finishing touches on our NEW performance upgrade packages for the Shelby GT500 Mustang. This vehicle responds VERY well to modifications that improve the airflow, computer programming and boost levels. Our package will be available in 2 different "stages". The first stage re-calibrates the computer processor for safe maximum performance in street use in conjunction with our complete air intake assembly developed exclusively for the Shelby Mustang. Not simply a product that we "adapted" to work with the Shelby using parts from our existing kits (as you might find with systems that use a "round" mass airflow housing), but a system featuring ALL-NEW components that are designed to take advantage of the unique requirements that the Shelby package necessitates. Once the calibration of our package is finalized, we anticipate that our "Stage 1" system will increase performance by a minimum of 60 HP, with up to a possible maximum of around 70 rear wheel HP.

In addition to the complete intake and tuning solution provided in the Stage 1 system, the "Stage 2" package will deliver a moderate increase in boost over the stock level, while still running the supercharger at an acceptable speed. Depending on the benefits of offering different pulley sizes (so that customers have the option to go more aggressive if they want to), we may offer that as an option as well. For your typical street vehicle running on premium pump gas, however, there is usually a particular speed that the blower can be driven that is optimal. We are doing our best to determine what pulley ratio is best for the Shelby, and let the customer decide. Because we are utilizing the Diablosport Predator tuning tool, you will have the end-user ability to make adjustments for changes such as this and the use of high octane unleaded racing fuel and different boost levels.

Owners of the earlier 2003-2004 Cobra and Lightning vehicles have often "over-driven" their superchargers so far beyond it's intended design parameters, that the supercharger creates VERY excessive heat. When increasing the boost, there is a definite point of diminishing returns. This is where spinning the blower faster not only creates more heat while taking more power to spin the blower faster, resulting in no appreciable improvement. Even though boost may continue to increase (slightly), the extra heat generated combined with the extra power necessary to spin the supercharger faster would offset any power gains.

You must also run less ignition timing in order to allow for this excessive heat without running into possible detonation. Over-driving the supercharger like this WILL give you more low RPM torque (because the blower is being turned faster, but not "too fast" in the lower RPM's) but power in the upper RPM's does not typically improve. While this might improve the low RPM feel of the vehicle in day-to-day driving, when you are racing, you are only below 4,000 RPM in your first gear. We believe in increasing the efficiency of the entire package to optimize performance, while still keeping the engine within safe operating parameters. Until final calibration testing is finished and the pulley ratios have been sorted out, we can only estimate that the performance gains realized by the "Stage 2" package will be between 100 to 120 rear wheel horsepower over stock. Of course, we will keep this updated as we approach the release of the systems.

You can be sure that others will offer upgrades that CLAIM to make more horsepower than our systems, but you must be careful to understand how performance results on a supercharged engine this powerful can be manipulated. When we provide power figures, these are REAL-WORLD numbers that can be anticipated at normal operating temperature with premium PUMP GAS and ambient temperature coolant running through the intercooler. By utilizing high octane "race fuel" (which allows for increased engine timing and substantially better performance), running ice water through the intercooler reservoir (which greatly reduces air inlet temps well below ambient temperatures, increasing the oxygen content to the engine) and performing tests with the engine cold or "iced down", one could quite possibly measure (and truthfully report) anywhere from 50 to 75 more horsepower than our claims, even at the same boost level. Does this mean that you would see this extra power in the REAL WORLD? Absolutely not. Can you match these claims with our products using the same testing methods? Of course.

Our mission is to provide Shelby owners with a reliable, high quality and fully sorted performance upgrade solution that requires minimum effort to install and enjoy. These packages will be competitively priced and will offer outstanding value for your money. Please keep an eye on our website, as we will be updating this information frequently. It has always been our policy NOT to provide new product images until we are ready to release them for sale. This is due to the excessive amount of product copying that takes place in the performance aftermarket. Our products are often copied or imitated, so we see no reason to give competitors any design ideas until after our products have been released. Although we do not have an "exact" release date available at this time, we are working very hard to finalize these products in a timely manner. We hope that you will be patient enough to wait for the best...

I want the ROUSH!

Got tired of seeing red...I told you before, I'm way illiterate when it comes to photoshopping pix and I couldn't figure out how to show the white car leading the red...so I did the next best thing, I put my fat self up there :p Maybe we performance white car owners could get 'LOOK N GO' to do a cartoon of a white car leading a red...the red car would have to be full of chickens and have so much chicken shit splattered on the outside that it could barely move :eek:



Ok I guess I deserve that.No more Shelby bashing,I like them all!

I will wait for this and for what steeda comes out with before deciding on any of them. My main concern is the heat shield.. I mean most CAI are all the same if from a good company....there is only so much you can do...make tube, no restrictions and put a big cone filter on it... but the heat shield with these cars are so important because heat is a killer on performance and these motors put out some serous heat... I drive my car for 1 hour and put it in the garage and the garage is warm all day :( So hopefully these guys will shield the heat as much as possible... I would love to see some duct work coming from the bottom grill and giving the filter some cold air...I might just have to look into that myself :)

busababy, if we could figure out how to funnel that heat into our homes during the winter months it may be cheaper for 93 octane than the cost of fuel oil?:D :D

Right you are, damn this motor does put out the heat. When winter is here and I decide to do some work in the garage I am going to drive the car around the block first than park it inside to warm things up a little :)

On a second note:

I notice in my lastest Mustang and fast fords magazine that they had a lighting shoot out.. and allot of the air intakes were sealed boxes not open like most. I can tell you through experience that sucking heat into the motor takes away power and not sure how they are going to seal up the area to block some of the heat. Time will tell but I can tell you that you want a CAI that has the biggest heat shield possible. If someone just puts a big filter on the end of a tube and no good heat shield that will be good for one pass down the strip and than major heat soak will take place. One reason why back in the day that Ram air, and function hood scoops were used heat has always been around to hurt us.

I will wait for this and for what steeda comes out with before deciding on any of them. My main concern is the heat shield.. I mean most CAI are all the same if from a good company....there is only so much you can do...make tube, no restrictions and put a big cone filter on it... but the heat shield with these cars are so important because heat is a killer on performance and these motors put out some serous heat... I drive my car for 1 hour and put it in the garage and the garage is warm all day :( So hopefully these guys will shield the heat as much as possible... I would love to see some duct work coming from the bottom grill and giving the filter some cold air...I might just have to look into that myself :)

The factory intake appears to suck from the fenderwell, right? Wrong, if you take a look inside that hole it goes nowhere.

The GT500 uses around 65lb/min of air peak, thats almost 1000CFM. Even with a heat shield you are going to end up sucking air from all over the engine bay.

The factory intake appears to suck from the fenderwell, right? Wrong, if you take a look inside that hole it goes nowhere.

The GT500 uses around 65lb/min of air peak, thats almost 1000CFM. Even with a heat shield you are going to end up sucking air from all over the engine bay.

Justin give us the solution to this problem.

Yes please, I know that you can't seal it 100% but we need something. On my dakota I had a K&N which the air filter sat in a L type shield, and than a 2 inch tall rubber gasket compressed against the hood when it closed. Of course it was not 100% heat tight but it did a really good job. As you know Justin these motors or maybe because of the super charger put out crazy amount of heat and just want a good solution. Design and great product cost and I know that, allot of compaines will go cheap to keep the cost down but the caliber of people that own these cars have money behind them. So don't feel you will price yourself out of the market. It cost to make a CAI with a better shield so be it... I will pay the money to have the best.. after all I bought the Shelby :)

Bill

Yes please, I know that you can't seal it 100% but we need something. On my dakota I had a K&N which the air filter sat in a L type shield, and than a 2 inch tall rubber gasket compressed against the hood when it closed. Of course it was not 100% heat tight but it did a really good job. As you know Justin these motors or maybe because of the super charger put out crazy amount of heat and just want a good solution. Design and great product cost and I know that, allot of compaines will go cheap to keep the cost down but the caliber of people that own these cars have money behind them. So don't feel you will price yourself out of the market. It cost to make a CAI with a better shield so be it... I will pay the money to have the best.. after all I bought the Shelby :)

Bill

Ditto!

I don't have my Shelby yet but, am definately willing to pay primium $ for a primium product.

Yes please, I know that you can't seal it 100% but we need something. On my dakota I had a K&N which the air filter sat in a L type shield, and than a 2 inch tall rubber gasket compressed against the hood when it closed. Of course it was not 100% heat tight but it did a really good job. As you know Justin these motors or maybe because of the super charger put out crazy amount of heat and just want a good solution. Design and great product cost and I know that, allot of compaines will go cheap to keep the cost down but the caliber of people that own these cars have money behind them. So don't feel you will price yourself out of the market. It cost to make a CAI with a better shield so be it... I will pay the money to have the best.. after all I bought the Shelby :)

Bill

Justin, as I said, give us the solution, and as busababy said, we will pay, just please do it right!;)

I will tell you this, there is no good solution that is not restrictive.

You can slightly help the situation at lower air flows and speeds with heat shields, and at speed the engine bay will get more airflow into it, but there is always going to be a compromise.

Some of those airboxs that seal off the filter are restrictive.

I pulled off the air box to take a better look at what Justin was talking about. With the air box on looking down you see a angled tube about 4 inches going into the fender well so you would think fresh air coming in from the fender.. WRONG just like he said no real fresh air coming in at that point. On one of my vehicles back in the day I had a scoop under the fender with with a home made tube running into the air box to get some fresh air into it. Not sure how to solve this problem with the shelby... not allot of room under the hood with the 5.4. Maybe not a big enough deal to worry about it but if I come up with anything I will post up here.

Also thank you Justin for all your input on the board about the air intake and mapping issues.

Hey guys, 1st post.
In our testing you will not see the drastic temps under the hood you would think with even a open filter when above 25MPH.
With the SCT X-2 and most all other tuners you can data log your IAT and see exact temps in real time. We have seen about 10-15 degrees above ambient air temp at sppeds of 25-30 in traffic and as low as 2-8 degrees above at speeds of 55+.
Even with these good temps on a kit with no shield we like to use a shield to help block radiant heat at idle and low speed.

Justin has JLT intakes on the way to him for tuning and kits will be released to the direct customers next week.
I don't want to push any non vendor rules of the site, so I'll stop there.
I see there is a JLT thread a couple down, so you can find some info in there.

Also, keep in mind. You will see tons of lower MAF housing only kits out there early. As we know they "can" work, many are having issues with the tune. Plus, you have the best Mustang ever built, why cheap out now and get half a kit? Also keep in mind the material used in the making of the intake body will greatly effect the inlet air temps and performance once heat soaked.

Best results in power, looks and inlet air temps comes from replacing the whole intake from the throttle body to the filter with the proper materials.

Thanks
Jay

Thank you Jay. Great info, at least in your wording you seem to be looking out for our best interest. I also am looking for a quality kit and have wondered why all modded mustangs in the past had a shield and yours does not. You have explained it in a way even I can understand and now I feel confident that you have researched this and produced a great looking quality product. I am already on the list for one eventhough my car is a couple weeks out. Looking forward to seeing it come off the Big Brown Truck.:)

Thank you Jay. Great info, at least in your wording you seem to be looking out for our best interest. I also am looking for a quality kit and have wondered why all modded mustangs in the past had a shield and yours does not. You have explained it in a way even I can understand and now I feel confident that you have researched this and produced a great looking quality product. I am already on the list for one eventhough my car is a couple weeks out. Looking forward to seeing it come off the Big Brown Truck.:)

No problem.
I see your in my area, so when you get the car and are ready come on by.

We do have a heat shield included with our kits, but it's just to block the heat at low speed.
One other thing to mention is all the air flow from under the car. Once you remove your stock airbox look down in that area. There is many large openings straight to the ground. Also all around the engine and the headlight area air flows right up into the engine compartment when at speed. You don't want to block this air as it's much cooler then the air in a sealed box. One thing I alway say is, if you buy a CAI with a sealed box, you might as well keep the stock sealed box. Save your money.
For instance, there is a company (remain nameless) that makes nice looking carbon fiber kit for the MACH I and Cobra. It looks great and is completely sealed. On the MACH I it dynos at about 4 RWHP:confused: . Now this kit is over $300. We removed the top to the sealed box and picked up another 4-6 RWHP.:eek:

In the 03, 04 Cobra world we have tons of cars running 550-700 RWHP with a simple open filter under the hood. We don't recommend it, but it's done and works. That's why we offer a true cold air for this model.

More warm are is better then less cool air.:D

With the new body style of your GT500 getting the filter out of the engine compartment is not possiable, but with a small heat shield and a large filter your inlet air temps will be as low as can be.

Thanks
Jay

Well I ordered my Tuner from Justin @ vmp tuning, last night so will have that part done. Next up is the Air intake from JLT, wanted to get it now but the girlfriend claims she never has anything cool to get me at Christmas so she is getting me thank. Justin is sending the tuner out with the 92 and 93 tune on it. I will flash the computer this week or weekend. I will post up my results soon after !

Once I have intake he will email me the new tune, I will upload to the SCT and than download the map to the Shelby. Taking the whole week of Christmas off so unless it snows I will be testing it as a hole package and will post up my results. Looking forward to this car running like it really should have from FORD :)

Doing some Christmas shopping and could not resist any longer. Ordered my CAI from JLT. Great look and am following in busababy's footsteps. Next my tuner and I am now leaning towards Justin @ VMP as well. Whipple just seems to be too much of an expenditure, and to realize its true potential requires modifications I feel I am not ready to make. Busababy let me know as soon as you get your tuner and have had a chance to test Justin's tune without the CAI. Maybe you can convince your girlfriend to make your CAI an early Christmas gift?:) I too am going to do gears but drive shaft change is still up in the air. A must for the track will be drag radials. Happy shopping!:p

In reviewing the SCT Livewire tuner I see that Justin, a SCT dealer, is offering a trade in program for the Livewire which should be available in the first quarter of 2007.

http://www.sctlivewire.com/lwmain.php?

I installed Justin's tune Yesterday evening. It has increased milelage by about 4 MPG, increased response and thrills the hell out of everyone who has ridden with me. For the price, I feel Justins is definitely worth it especially to be able to get the CAI for $200-$250 when it comes out with a free tune after you by it too.

Welll everyone I got my tuner today but being black friday I was like the rest of the nuts out there this morning getting some shopping done. UPS dropped it off at 3:00 P.M.

Tonight about 9:30 just uploaded the 93 octane tune. Read the directions 3 times to make sure (measure twice cut once) I knew the steps. Plugged it in and the menu walked you through the rest. A 10 year old could do it just follow the directions very very simple. (Easier and faster than installing a new cam like back in the day :)

Anyhow car is flashed and tomorrow will take it out for the test drive :)
Check back tomorrow will have full details on what I think.

Talk to you all soon.

Welll everyone I got my tuner today but being black friday I was like the rest of the nuts out there this morning getting some shopping done. UPS dropped it off at 3:00 P.M.

Tonight about 9:30 just uploaded the 93 octane tune. Read the directions 3 times to make sure (measure twice cut once) I knew the steps. Plugged it in and the menu walked you through the rest. A 10 year old could do it just follow the directions very very simple. (Easier and faster than installing a new cam like back in the day :)

Anyhow car is flashed and tomorrow will take it out for the test drive :)
Check back tomorrow will have full details on what I think.

Talk to you all soon.


I will be waiting!I trust your judgement and post often.Isn't it a blast?Wish I could drive mine!

Welll everyone I got my tuner today but being black friday I was like the rest of the nuts out there this morning getting some shopping done. UPS dropped it off at 3:00 P.M.

Tonight about 9:30 just uploaded the 93 octane tune. Read the directions 3 times to make sure (measure twice cut once) I knew the steps. Plugged it in and the menu walked you through the rest. A 10 year old could do it just follow the directions very very simple. (Easier and faster than installing a new cam like back in the day :)

Anyhow car is flashed and tomorrow will take it out for the test drive :)
Check back tomorrow will have full details on what I think.

Talk to you all soon.

Nice to hear that Busababy. In Utah right now for turkey day and a football game. Will be back in Florida monday and will head up to Justins for his tune and a dyno run.

Nice to hear that Busababy. In Utah right now for turkey day and a football game. Will be back in Florida monday and will head up to Justins for his tune and a dyno run.

AC will you be doing a dyno run with CAI and if so who's CAI? I have ordered a CAI from JLT and am awaiting Justin's tune for it with 93 octane.

AC will you be doing a dyno run with CAI and if so who's CAI? I have ordered a CAI from JLT and am awaiting Justin's tune for it with 93 octane.

Yes I will. Still not sure who yet, either JLT or Justins if his comes in soon. I looked at the CAI from Roush on my brothers car but wasnt impressed and it costs a ton.

busababy So what's the verdict? 57 degrees here and I know it is close to the same by you.:)

Okay guys just pulled in the garage tires still smoking so here is my findings.

This is using Justins tune from VMP Tuning. The tuner had 92 and 93 octane program and I pushed the 93 tune to the computer.

*** Warning *** Do not stomped down the go pedal at any speed when in first gear !! If you do you better be pointing in a straight line :) As you all know 1st gear was bad enough stock now....WOW I think I need wider tires :) 2nd gear pulls like it is in first if you can believe that. Hit third gear looked down and was doing a 100+ and thinking holy shit. Was only going to go out for about 45 minutes but today it is sunny and 60 and could not bring myself to take it home. Drove it about 80 miles today. Stop 3 times in the middle of a road to launch it... that was a waste will not hook up so you have to use some throttle control in first. Than hit 2nd with your foot planted to the floor and the bell is ringing in seconds telling you to shift. In fact my setting was at 6K and Justin has raised the limit to 6500 so I need to bump it up to 6300 shift point. Have no idea about gas mileage because my foot was in it to much :) The car is very very snappy in 2nd and 3rd more so than from the factory...4th or 5th can't tell any difference only because of the gearing and in 4th your doing well over 100 which you can not do as many times as you can the 0-100 stomps. The car idles a few hundred rpms more which means it does not shutter when taking off in first which is great..I have been driving a clutch since 16 but sometimes with the shelby it would shutter and shake from a dead stop like I have never driven a clutch before...well that problem is gone, so another advantage doing the tune.

Bottom line well worth the money, super easy to do, super easy to undo, and so far I can't think of anything negative doing this...well one thing you want to stomp it more than you already do :) As the 2 guys rate movies and than tell you about them I have to give Justins tune 2 thumbs up. Feel free to email me or PM me with any questions.

Can't wait for Christmas when Santa brings me the JLT intake and a new tune from Justin. More Horsepower please :D

Well busababy Justin just sold number 14!:)

Okay guys just pulled in the garage tires still smoking so here is my findings.

This is using Justins tune from VMP Tuning. The tuner had 92 and 93 octane program and I pushed the 93 tune to the computer.

*** Warning *** Do not stomped down the go pedal at any speed when in first gear !! If you do you better be pointing in a straight line :) As you all know 1st gear was bad enough stock now....WOW I think I need wider tires :) 2nd gear pulls like it is in first if you can believe that. Hit third gear looked down and was doing a 100+ and thinking holy shit. Was only going to go out for about 45 minutes but today it is sunny and 60 and could not bring myself to take it home. Drove it about 80 miles today. Stop 3 times in the middle of a road to launch it... that was a waste will not hook up so you have to use some throttle control in first. Than hit 2nd with your foot planted to the floor and the bell is ringing in seconds telling you to shift. In fact my setting was at 6K and Justin has raised the limit to 6500 so I need to bump it up to 6300 shift point. Have no idea about gas mileage because my foot was in it to much :) The car is very very snappy in 2nd and 3rd more so than from the factory...4th or 5th can't tell any difference only because of the gearing and in 4th your doing well over 100 which you can not do as many times as you can the 0-100 stomps. The car idles a few hundred rpms more which means it does not shutter when taking off in first which is great..I have been driving a clutch since 16 but sometimes with the shelby it would shutter and shake from a dead stop like I have never driven a clutch before...well that problem is gone, so another advantage doing the tune.

Bottom line well worth the money, super easy to do, super easy to undo, and so far I can't think of anything negative doing this...well one thing you want to stomp it more than you already do :) As the 2 guys rate movies and than tell you about them I have to give Justins tune 2 thumbs up. Feel free to email me or PM me with any questions.

Can't wait for Christmas when Santa brings me the JLT intake and a new tune from Justin. More Horsepower please :D


Very nice Busababy.Glad you are happy with it.

Well busababy Justin just sold number 14!:)

I don't even have my car yet and I'm thinking about being number 15. That brings up a question that I don't think I've seen answered yet. Do you need to get some miles on the car before dropping a tune in it? I already have new exhaust waiting patiently until I can get the car home from the dealer. Would it be bad to download the tune as soon as I got the car home? Due to how close the dealer is, I imagine I'll have less than 10 miles on the vehicle when it gets pulled into the garage and put up on jack stands to replace the exhaust.

busababy - what made your decision to install the 93 octane vs. 92 octane program? Will it matter based on the car? Thanks.

Aldy

Would it be bad...no not like it is going to hurt anything...HOWEVER if your asking my 2 cents worth... I always like to shake out any bugs first. Meaning you can do the exhaust same day... I did my the 2nd day of owning the car but I wanted 1000 miles on it just to make sure no check engine lights or nothing screwy with the car. Once I had 1000 miles on it doesn't mean something could break or whatever but I feel allot better about doing stuff now. Some wait till 3000 miles before monkeying with it...just a personal perference.

I say break the car in, get use to it and what it does than put the tune in..that way you can appreciate the difference. Same goes with the CAI. You can buy them both now and have them waiting...it will give you more of a reason to break it in faster and if your like me it gives you something to look forward to...like a kid waiting for Christmas day to come :)

Thanks Busababy. That makes perfect sense. I should be getting my car mid December and my birthday is in February so maybe I can convince my wife that the CAI and tune would be a perfect birthday gift.

The difference with either 92 or 93 is how much timing he can put on the car. Anyone ever watch pinks on the Nascar Channel I mean speed channel :) They put timing in or take it out depending on if they are using NOS or have been talked out of it from the other team. If you can get 93 octane at every corner gas station use the 93 tune just has a little more timing to it. If not than tell Justin and he will give you a 91 and 92 tune preloaded. Now we have a Sunco that has 94 octane about 20 minutes away so in that case if you did have that you could ask for a 94 tune...but 94 octane is harder to come by but 92 and 93 are standard. I also ask from Santa some 104 booster and I will run a bottle of that every tank full or every other one. raises it up a point or 2. Cheaper to buy it by the case vs a bottle at Pep Boys. So the quick answer use the tune that matches the gas you can get just wanted to explain why... Justin if your out there feel free to chip in :)

Thanks, bsababy. That helps. Depending on the station, I've been putting in either 91 or 92 octane. I'll need to keep that in mind when ordering my tune.

I used the 93 tune because I can find it at most of the gas stations around me. In fact I can't remember the last time I saw 91 or 92 octane around where I am. I had over 400 miles on mine when the tune went in and now have over 1100. Ditto.....100.....what busababy said. It is hard if not impossible to keep it straight in 1st and 2nd since I put the tune in, and I don't think I have ever put it all the way to the floor.

Well after about 3 hours of being home and wiping it down I couldn't take it... I grapped the keys off the wall and back in it again just to make sure I wasn't dreaming....picked up a friend to go for a test drive..never told him what I did with the tuning it... Came to stop sign pulled off easy got to about 3K and with no warning I yank it back in 2nd and STOOD on the go pedal like I was smashing a bug...I look over at him and him and he is grapping the door and gritting his teeth saying OKAY OKAY OKAY he wanted me to take my foot out of it.. and I did after kissing 5 grand in 3rd. I was laughing and just as happy as I good by he looked at me and said F#@@ this thing has to much power... to much power I told him no such thing and this is just the beginning. Could you imagine with the CAI and 3.73 gears how hard this thing would pull... Dam I am getting goose bumps just thinking about it.

P.S. STOP right now reading about it and get to www.vmptuning.com and get yours ordered today :) Tell him Busababy in Virginia sent you.

Well after about 3 hours of being home and wiping it down I couldn't take it... I grapped the keys off the wall and back in it again just to make sure I wasn't dreaming....picked up a friend to go for a test drive..never told him what I did with the tuning it... Came to stop sign pulled off easy got to about 3K and with no warning I yank it back in 2nd and STOOD on the go pedal like I was smashing a bug...I look over at him and him and he is grapping the door and gritting his teeth saying OKAY OKAY OKAY he wanted me to take my foot out of it.. and I did after kissing 5 grand in 3rd. I was laughing and just as happy as I good by he looked at me and said F#@@ this thing has to much power... to much power I told him no such thing and this is just the beginning. Could you imagine with the CAI and 3.73 gears how hard this thing would pull... Dam I am getting goose bumps just thinking about it.

P.S. STOP right now reading about it and get to www.vmptuning.com and get yours ordered today :) Tell him Busababy in Virginia sent you.

No need busaby I was convinced after your first post. Now I can't wait to speak to Justin on Monday. ;)

I have been running Justin's 93 octane tune for a couple of weeks now. I agree with Busababy's observations, though I do not know how to express them nearly as eloquently.

I have been running Justin's 93 octane tune for a couple of weeks now. I agree with Busababy's observations, though I do not know how to express them nearly as eloquently.

Yep, ditto here for over a month now! Lovin' every minute of it! :D :D :D

Justin's building quite a following here :)

I fully agree!!! Hopefully we can express our opinion of Justin on this thread without being accused of cutting down other Vendors just because we don't rave about them or fall victim to their hype.

I fully agree!!! Hopefully we can express our opinion of Justin on this thread without being accused of cutting down other Vendors just because we don't rave about them or fall victim to their hype.



Can we move on.This is getting old.I have never critized you.Justin has a good reputation and I am not disputing this.Please lets be a little more positive.We all have opinions.We don't have to agree thats whats great about America.

I never critized you,that I can remember, or anyone else on this site. I have stated my opinions about vendors and GT500 related mods and experiences. I, like others, want to offer input and hopefully helpful advice or criticism. Sorry, if you took it differently.

I never critized you,that I can remember, or anyone else on this site. I have stated my opinions about vendors and GT500 related mods and experiences. I, like others, want to offer input and hopefully helpful advice or criticism. Sorry, if you took it differently.

All your post have been very good Dsabldvt. Dont let it worry you its just a deflective move.

This may be getting old but the thrill of driving my Shelby never does. Think I will go for a ride.:) It is going to be a long winter at this rate for those of us who do not have the pleasure of experiencing our Shelby's. Everyone take a deep breath and relax.;) Think Shelby...........AH how sweet it is.

For the information of those who are still looking over modification options, I have this update from the C&L Performance site:

UPDATE 11/22/06
We have completed our final fitting, and the tooling for our new intake assembly is in process. We are EXTREMELY happy with how it has turned out, and are confident that this system will become the standard by which all others are compared. None of the parts used to create this kit have been "borrowed" from other existing systems, and we are even having to invest in unique tooling for an all-new style air filter. We are doing our best to make this system the BEST, and hope to have a treat prepared for the Shelby owners by Christmas...

Also, I talked with a lady from Roush this morning about the GT500 mods that they had on their site a few weeks ago and have since removed. Roush and Ford are ironing out things between them, like deciding whether the the mod will be coming from Roush or Ford. She said that the modifications were going to be available some time or other and to check back on the Roush site now and then for an update.

Thanks Oldimp, nice to see more products on the market.

I have been running Justin's 93 octane tune for a couple of weeks now. I agree with Busababy's observations, though I do not know how to express them nearly as eloquently.

You need to let me at your other blown 5.4. :D I could have a lot of fun building a twin turbo kit...its too easy on that car.

Hi Guys, I have been busy catching up.

I do have a tune now for the JLT intake. I should have around 10 units next week. The intake showed a gain of 20-23rwhp on the dyno, as expected based on my prototype VMP intake testing from a few months back.

I would put at least 300 miles on the car before tuning it, possibly even more so you can appreciate the tune even more. It turns the car into a whole new animal.

I have tunes for 91, 92, 93, and 94 oct. I can also create race fuel tunes for my customers.

For the information of those who are still looking over modification options, I have this update from the C&L Performance site:

UPDATE 11/22/06
We have completed our final fitting, and the tooling for our new intake assembly is in process. We are EXTREMELY happy with how it has turned out, and are confident that this system will become the standard by which all others are compared. None of the parts used to create this kit have been "borrowed" from other existing systems, and we are even having to invest in unique tooling for an all-new style air filter. We are doing our best to make this system the BEST, and hope to have a treat prepared for the Shelby owners by Christmas...

Also, I talked with a lady from Roush this morning about the GT500 mods that they had on their site a few weeks ago and have since removed. Roush and Ford are ironing out things between them, like deciding whether the the mod will be coming from Roush or Ford. She said that the modifications were going to be available some time or other and to check back on the Roush site now and then for an update.




Sorry, what is the web site?

Well just got in and at my front door was the JLT and Justin's SCT tuner. Couldn't wait so installed the tune for 93 octane without the JLT and had to take it out, even though my better half said wait till tomorrow. Busababy said it best but I will verify his findings. The start up seems to rev higher and the warm idle speed is a few hundred rpm's higher making starts from first much improved for clutch chatter. Straight lines are a must as first to second is stomp on it then shift and second to third does not leave much for delay before shifting as well. Feels like a different vehicle from first to third but with the temperature at 55 here now these tires do not hold well without wheel hop being too obvious as to appreciate the full potential. Being night and not the best of temperatures I did not want to push it. I did not look at speeds as night and temperature dictated my attention being straight ahead and tachometer was my only other focus point. Boost seems to come on quicker with throttle response impressive. This was my first experience with using a tuner and I must say it was quite a simple procedure. I had Justin provide me with a tune for 93 octane with the JLT and without and 100 octane with the JLT. Although I have nothing to compare Justin's tune to I feel his tune will stand up to the best of them.

As for the JLT I will install that over the weekend but wish the carbon fiber portion was finished a little better on the outside seams and the internal portion could have been finished better on the overlay of sheets, as it is quite rough. This should not effect the function but for the price a little more time could have been spent on the internal finish of the carbon fiber portion as well as the outside seams. I must add that the JLT color of the carbon fiber will definitely be faster with Tungsten.:p

Sorry, what is the web site?

The C&L site is:

http://www.cnlperformance.com/shelbygt500.html

Roush Performance is:

http://www.roushperf.com/

I called the number at the top of the home page, 1-800-59-ROUSH and talked to a lady named Bernadette (I think!).

Hi Guys, I have been busy catching up.

I do have a tune now for the JLT intake. I should have around 10 units next week. The intake showed a gain of 20-23rwhp on the dyno, as expected based on my prototype VMP intake testing from a few months back.

I would put at least 300 miles on the car before tuning it, possibly even more so you can appreciate the tune even more. It turns the car into a whole new animal.

I have tunes for 91, 92, 93, and 94 oct. I can also create race fuel tunes for my customers.

Thanks for the update, Justin! Now if I could just get my #$%&* Shelby.

Justin;

Are you still going to have your own CAI or do we need to get one of the JLT units?

Well just got in and at my front door was the JLT and Justin's SCT tuner. Couldn't wait so installed the tune for 93 octane without the JLT and had to take it out, even though my better half said wait till tomorrow. Busababy said it best but I will verify his findings. The start up seems to rev higher and the warm idle speed is a few hundred rpm's higher making starts from first much improved for clutch chatter. Straight lines are a must as first to second is stomp on it then shift and second to third does not leave much for delay before shifting as well. Feels like a different vehicle from first to third but with the temperature at 55 here now these tires do not hold well without wheel hop being too obvious as to appreciate the full potential. Being night and not the best of temperatures I did not want to push it. I did not look at speeds as night and temperature dictated my attention being straight ahead and tachometer was my only other focus point. Boost seems to come on quicker with throttle response impressive. This was my first experience with using a tuner and I must say it was quite a simple procedure. I had Justin provide me with a tune for 93 octane with the JLT and without and 100 octane with the JLT. Although I have nothing to compare Justin's tune to I feel his tune will stand up to the best of them.

As for the JLT I will install that over the weekend but wish the carbon fiber portion was finished a little better on the outside seams and the internal portion could have been finished better on the overlay of sheets, as it is quite rough. This should not effect the function but for the price a little more time could have been spent on the internal finish of the carbon fiber portion as well as the outside seams. I must add that the JLT color of the carbon fiber will definitely be faster with Tungsten.:p

Glad you liked it and that your seeing the same results that I did. Yes mine also starts and revs higher. Can't wait to hear about the results with the JLT. Not sure I like the faster with the tungsten color...might have to spray paint mine red which should add 2 more hp over the carbon fiber .. for Red Shelbys only )

Glad you liked it and that your seeing the same results that I did. Yes mine also starts and revs higher. Can't wait to hear about the results with the JLT. Not sure I like the faster with the tungsten color...might have to spray paint mine red which should add 2 more hp over the carbon fiber .. for Red Shelbys only )

Some say a fifth under the seat will also add HP to a mans car?????????:confused:

Well just got in and at my front door was the JLT and Justin's SCT tuner. Couldn't wait so installed the tune for 93 octane without the JLT and had to take it out, even though my better half said wait till tomorrow. Busababy said it best but I will verify his findings. The start up seems to rev higher and the warm idle speed is a few hundred rpm's higher making starts from first much improved for clutch chatter. Straight lines are a must as first to second is stomp on it then shift and second to third does not leave much for delay before shifting as well. Feels like a different vehicle from first to third but with the temperature at 55 here now these tires do not hold well without wheel hop being too obvious as to appreciate the full potential. Being night and not the best of temperatures I did not want to push it. I did not look at speeds as night and temperature dictated my attention being straight ahead and tachometer was my only other focus point. Boost seems to come on quicker with throttle response impressive. This was my first experience with using a tuner and I must say it was quite a simple procedure. I had Justin provide me with a tune for 93 octane with the JLT and without and 100 octane with the JLT. Although I have nothing to compare Justin's tune to I feel his tune will stand up to the best of them.

As for the JLT I will install that over the weekend but wish the carbon fiber portion was finished a little better on the outside seams and the internal portion could have been finished better on the overlay of sheets, as it is quite rough. This should not effect the function but for the price a little more time could have been spent on the internal finish of the carbon fiber portion as well as the outside seams. I must add that the JLT color of the carbon fiber will definitely be faster with Tungsten.:p

It's the weekend, did you get your JLT CAI installed yet, inquiring minds want to know the result of...:)

It's the weekend, did you get your JLT CAI installed yet, inquiring minds want to know the result of...:)

Have not installed the JLT CAI but am enjoying Justin's tune. Feels like a different automobile.:) The weather is beginning to take a turn for the worst here and hope I can get a chance to enjoy my ride a few days a week. It's all up to mother nature at this point. At the rate I am going I will need new shoes by summer. It's really hard to hold back for the improved throttle response is such a pleasure. If you thought you enjoyed your ride pre tune, post tune is a whole new world.;)

Has anyone heard from Justin lately? I e-mailed him a question on his CAI kit and he has never responded. Now I can't get on to his web site. I was under the impression that he would have a CAI by now. The last time I saw something on his site it said after the 1st of the year. Now he won't respond to questions about it. Any one else having problems communicating with him. I never got a good answer on my tune not being like he advertised either. Any help would be appreciated.

I used the 93 tune because I can find it at most of the gas stations around me. In fact I can't remember the last time I saw 91 or 92 octane around where I am. I had over 400 miles on mine when the tune went in and now have over 1100. Ditto.....100.....what busababy said. It is hard if not impossible to keep it straight in 1st and 2nd since I put the tune in, and I don't think I have ever put it all the way to the floor.

Your posts seemed to indicate that you were happy with the tune. :confused: I've had nothing but good results from my 93 tune. :) I did inquire as well about his CAI and read that it was going to be after the first of the year before available. Because of this and the fact I may do "pulleys", I decided to go with the JLT (which Justin shipped yesterday) and his updated tune. Justin's main business is in "tunes". He is developing his CAI on the side for those that don't need the JLT for a pulley upgrade. I suspect he is pretty busy with "tunes", the holidays and finding vendors for his CAI parts.

Regarding contacting him...I email him during the week and usually get a reply the next day. I believe he is closed on the weekends. I have not tried reaching him on his forum at his site. Have you tried calling him?

I installed Justin's tune Yesterday evening. It has increased milelage by about 4 MPG, increased response and thrills the hell out of everyone who has ridden with me. For the price, I feel Justins is definitely worth it especially to be able to get the CAI for $200-$250 when it comes out with a free tune after you by it too.

He might even be sick??? I know there is an awful lot of flu and sickness going around here and in Florida right now. I would suggest calling him at VMP and if you can't wait for his CAI go with the JLT like others. It is available now, looks great and he offers the free tune for that setup as well.

Justin;

Are you still going to have your own CAI or do we need to get one of the JLT units?

Hey, I did respond to your question at some point, my intake is still several weeks out. If the date gets any earlier I'll let you know :).

Well got my JLT intake for Christmas. Will be installing tomorrow and uploading tunes. My thoughts will follow ASAP (weather dependent)

Well got my JLT intake for Christmas. Will be installing tomorrow and uploading tunes. My thoughts will follow ASAP (weather dependent)



Santa came through.Can't wait to see your post.

Well the JLT install is done. I read the directions twice and started at it. One thing I did do that the directions don’t tell you to do is I took the strut tower brace before starting the install. My opinion was it takes about 2 minutes or less and than you don’t have to deal with that bar in the way. I did not put the kit together and than install it like the instructions said. I did it the way that Vnmous1 did it which was start with the rubber sleeve and connect to the throttle body. Than slide the carbon fiber tube into rubber sleeve. (side note wet the rubber sleeve and the carbon fiber tube will slide in very easy)
From there installed the MAF housing, slide heat shield on and than filter. The directions are very easy and straight forward.. I just choose to install pieces at a time instead of the hole unit. Next I but the brace back on and did the adjustments to make sure there was clearance. I cut a 6 inch by 6 inch piece of cardboard from a old box and put between the carbon fiber and the strut brace, than clamped everything down and pulled the cardboard out to make sure it was not hitting. The hole job took me about 75 minutes from start to finish.. could have done it faster but like to do projects like this slow and controlled. I also waxed the inside fender well after removing stock air box.

Some side notes:
Taking the factory air box off takes really about 5 minutes if even that. 1 bolt and a couple hose clamps very simple. So simple that I would like to think Ford did this because they knew that a CAI was going to be installed :)

Even though I have great fluorescent lighting in the garage I have a flash light that you wear around your head something like a coal miner would wear..got it at lowes for $20.00 one year and it really helps because the light is always where your hands are.

Air filter is really really nice, the end is not blocked like most it is open to allow air to come into the filter straight on not just from the sides.

Justin from VMP emailed the tunes to me…saved them to desktop, plugged in the SCT programmer into my laptop, ran the software which ask you if you want to upload a tune to your SCT programmer, you point to your desktop click on the tune you want the programmer to have and it takes about 90 seconds to put the tune on the programmer. Very Very straight forward and non technical, for those that don’t do allot with a computer beside surf, you will find this is easier than most computer games.

So that is it the install is done, the car has been programmed, tomorrow the test drive.

busababy - great report - looking forward to your test drive.

Well the JLT install is done. I read the directions twice and started at it. One thing I did do that the directions don’t tell you to do is I took the strut tower brace before starting the install. My opinion was it takes about 2 minutes or less and than you don’t have to deal with that bar in the way. I did not put the kit together and than install it like the instructions said. I did it the way that Vnmous1 did it which was start with the rubber sleeve and connect to the throttle body. Than slide the carbon fiber tube into rubber sleeve. (side note wet the rubber sleeve and the carbon fiber tube will slide in very easy)
From there installed the MAF housing, slide heat shield on and than filter. The directions are very easy and straight forward.. I just choose to install pieces at a time instead of the hole unit. Next I but the brace back on and did the adjustments to make sure there was clearance. I cut a 6 inch by 6 inch piece of cardboard from a old box and put between the carbon fiber and the strut brace, than clamped everything down and pulled the cardboard out to make sure it was not hitting. The hole job took me about 75 minutes from start to finish.. could have done it faster but like to do projects like this slow and controlled. I also waxed the inside fender well after removing stock air box.

Some side notes:
Taking the factory air box off takes really about 5 minutes if even that. 1 bolt and a couple hose clamps very simple. So simple that I would like to think Ford did this because they knew that a CAI was going to be installed :)

Even though I have great fluorescent lighting in the garage I have a flash light that you wear around your head something like a coal miner would wear..got it at lowes for $20.00 one year and it really helps because the light is always where your hands are.

Air filter is really really nice, the end is not blocked like most it is open to allow air to come into the filter straight on not just from the sides.

Justin from VMP emailed the tunes to me…saved them to desktop, plugged in the SCT programmer into my laptop, ran the software which ask you if you want to upload a tune to your SCT programmer, you point to your desktop click on the tune you want the programmer to have and it takes about 90 seconds to put the tune on the programmer. Very Very straight forward and non technical, for those that don’t do allot with a computer beside surf, you will find this is easier than most computer games.

So that is it the install is done, the car has been programmed, tomorrow the test drive.



Good deal Busababy,thanks for the info.

Well the JLT install is done. I read the directions twice and started at it. One thing I did do that the directions don’t tell you to do is I took the strut tower brace before starting the install. My opinion was it takes about 2 minutes or less and than you don’t have to deal with that bar in the way. I did not put the kit together and than install it like the instructions said. I did it the way that Vnmous1 did it which was start with the rubber sleeve and connect to the throttle body. Than slide the carbon fiber tube into rubber sleeve. (side note wet the rubber sleeve and the carbon fiber tube will slide in very easy)
From there installed the MAF housing, slide heat shield on and than filter. The directions are very easy and straight forward.. I just choose to install pieces at a time instead of the hole unit. Next I but the brace back on and did the adjustments to make sure there was clearance. I cut a 6 inch by 6 inch piece of cardboard from a old box and put between the carbon fiber and the strut brace, than clamped everything down and pulled the cardboard out to make sure it was not hitting. The hole job took me about 75 minutes from start to finish.. could have done it faster but like to do projects like this slow and controlled. I also waxed the inside fender well after removing stock air box.

Some side notes:
Taking the factory air box off takes really about 5 minutes if even that. 1 bolt and a couple hose clamps very simple. So simple that I would like to think Ford did this because they knew that a CAI was going to be installed :)

Even though I have great fluorescent lighting in the garage I have a flash light that you wear around your head something like a coal miner would wear..got it at lowes for $20.00 one year and it really helps because the light is always where your hands are.

Air filter is really really nice, the end is not blocked like most it is open to allow air to come into the filter straight on not just from the sides.

Justin from VMP emailed the tunes to me…saved them to desktop, plugged in the SCT programmer into my laptop, ran the software which ask you if you want to upload a tune to your SCT programmer, you point to your desktop click on the tune you want the programmer to have and it takes about 90 seconds to put the tune on the programmer. Very Very straight forward and non technical, for those that don’t do allot with a computer beside surf, you will find this is easier than most computer games.

So that is it the install is done, the car has been programmed, tomorrow the test drive.

You are gonna love the new GROWL she makes when you plant your foot! That sound is soooo addictive.

Well just got back from a 3 1/2 hour test drive with the JLT intake and 93 octane tune. There is good news and bad news. The good news is the car runs GREAT... you can hear the Supercharge screaming when you have your foot in it. I drove up into the mountains with the Beltronics STI on and was carving the roads like last years Christmas turkey. Hit 135mph on a nice straight away and was yelling Yehh Haw like the boys from Dukes of Hazzard :) Was in all the RPM ranges, went through all the gears (this thing needs real gears) and all was fine. Pulled over to make sure that intake was still in place and it was right were I left it :) Brought a screw driver with me to tighten up the hose clamps but they did not need it so I left them alone. Like 2008Shebly said above the growl is awesum. I don't think anyone will be disappointed with this intake. Also a side note once I got home I opened the hood again to feel the carbon fiber intake and it was only warm at best where as I would hate to touch the supercharge or any metal on the engine. My point when other companies start making intakes they better look to something beside Aluminum or metal because that type of materail is going to get extremely hot under the hood with air going down a hot tube that will not make good power. I like the carbon fiber but if I had a choice and they made it to me a fiberglass red tube would have looked nice.. and being red you know what that means :)

P.S.

I mention good news and bad news. Well you read the good news above.. the bad news is Average MPG was about 5 mpg because YOU CAN'T KEEP YOUR FOOT OUT OF IT :D

I mention good news and bad news. Well you read the good news above.. the bad news is Average MPG was about 5 mpg because YOU CAN'T KEEP YOUR FOOT OUT OF IT :D

That's the kind of "bad" news I can deal with! :D

Great to hear Bill. I glad your happy with my JLT and Justin's tune.
We just did another before and after yesterday gaining a whopping 90 RWHP and we will be doing another today.

Thanks for your post.

Jay

For those still shopping around for a CAI, Steeda has their version up on their site:

http://www.steeda.com/products/gt500_parts.php

I like the blue filter!

Great to hear Bill. I glad your happy with my JLT and Justin's tune.
We just did another before and after yesterday gaining a whopping 90 RWHP and we will be doing another today.

Thanks for your post.

Jay

Wow, 90 RWHP ! Is that just with the intake and a tune ?

-Thanks

Doesn't look like the steeda gives much more than a filter and MAF and for 389.00 seems a little high. The blue filter looks nice but the red filter is faster you know :)

one post mentioned 20hp increase after good break in; what is the proper break in procedure for these 500hp engines?

:D Drive it like you stole it.

What txlaw said.
drive it like ya stole it!

Hey all just in I'm new:) ...and if your chatting is true Im in for alot more fun with my new car:. How do I get my feet wet...well after 480 miles I tooj her out to Portland International Speedway for a Street Warriors drag event and ripped off a 12.6 I guess thats breakin her in right..I definetly will be upgrading but I won't go extreme...as I see you have already figured its really a race to see how can hookup best. I really like the idea of sharing it as we go...cool.:D

Hey all just in I'm new:) ...and if your chatting is true Im in for alot more fun with my new car:. How do I get my feet wet...well after 480 miles I tooj her out to Portland International Speedway for a Street Warriors drag event and ripped off a 12.6 I guess thats breakin her in right..I definetly will be upgrading but I won't go extreme...as I see you have already figured its really a race to see how can hookup best. I really like the idea of sharing it as we go...cool.:D



Welcome to the board.Lotsa good info here.

one post mentioned 20hp increase after good break in; what is the proper break in procedure for these 500hp engines?

I would just drive it.

For anyone that may be interested, I was checking the C&L site this morning and found where they had posted an update late January and here it is:

"January 25, 2007 Production UPDATE: The Shelby intake assembly has been completely finalized for production and calibration testing is currently underway. Specialized tooling for the air filter assembly was completed on 1/23/07, the filter shroud assembly tooling was completed on 1/19/07, and pre-production inlet pipe castings were first produced on 1/22/07. After calibration testing, production kits should be available "immediately". Keep an eye on this site for release information."

I have the C&L set-up in my Mustang GT and I like it very much, so I have been anxious to see what they come up with for the Shelby.

I hope they don't use that aluminum material for the tube it will get heat soaked badly with this motor. After driving for an hour open the hood and touch something metal and you see, however touch the JLT intake and it is warm but never burning hot, which is a good thing.

So far nothing on the market is any more impressive than the JLT I guess C&L has one shot at it :)

C&L will be full 1 piece aluminum from TB to filter.
Lots of heat soaking material for sure.

Jay

C&L will be full 1 piece aluminum from TB to filter.
Lots of heat soaking material for sure.

Jay

JLT was the one for me.:D :D

Don't know whether this has been dicussed or not, but i live in south florida and whanted to know what you all think.
Steeda cai or Jlt ?????????

thoughts....

thanks..

I have no experience with Steeda'a CAI but I can tell you that the JLT looks great, especially with Tungsten, excellent quality and outstanding performance. Very satisfied with my JLT CAI.

:D Drive it like you stole it.

DITTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

100% agree, allot of bang for your buck.

Don't know whether this has been dicussed or not, but i live in south florida and whanted to know what you all think.
Steeda cai or Jlt ?????????

thoughts....

thanks..

Consider this.
Steeda- Stock upper tube - Filter/maf housing and metal heat shield $389. No intake only dyno numbers on there site or any where. Shady intake & pulley graph on there intake page.:rolleyes:

JLT- Full carbon fiber replacement pipe, billet MAF housing, large filter, plastic heat shield, and stainless support. $449.
Tons of 3rd party dyno numbers to back the 70-90 RWHP gains seen by JLT.
JLT offers FREE before and after dyno sessions to all local GT500 customer to prove you get what you pay for.:D

Before you buy, look for as much info as you can. Then ask questions and conpair price.
Thanks
Jay

DITTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Hey bogey, when you going to get my car off your avatar?? LOL

Consider this.
Steeda- Stock upper tube - Filter/maf housing and metal heat shield $389. No intake only dyno numbers on there site or any where. Shady intake & pulley graph on there intake page.:rolleyes:

JLT- Full carbon fiber replacement pipe, billet MAF housing, large filter, plastic heat shield, and stainless support. $449.
Tons of 3rd party dyno numbers to back the 70-90 RWHP gains seen by JLT.
JLT offers FREE before and after dyno sessions to all local GT500 customer to prove you get what you pay for.:D

Before you buy, look for as much info as you can. Then ask questions and conpair price.
Thanks
Jay

Tucker, along with the reports from those who have the JLT have me convinced. I ordered the EVO Stage I that includes the JLTyesterday. Can't wait to try it.

Tucker, along with the reports from those who have the JLT have me convinced. I ordered the EVO Stage I that includes the JLTyesterday. Can't wait to try it.

You will not regret it!:) But bring a change of underwear for the test ride.:D

Hey bogey, when you going to get my car off your avatar?? LOL

HA HA Ha Looks just like mine......:D

There!!!!!! I really forgot about it. I stole yours while I was still waiting for mine to come in..... Don't you agree about the "White is the Fastest" thing that keeps popping up on different Threads?????????

Thats better! LOL

Jelousy will get you guys nowhere.......
Red IS faster so lets stop al the BS...........

I will be ordering the JTL soon.....All positives so far on this forum and have not heard of a negative.

Unless having to change your underwear is a negative???

Jelousy will get you guys nowhere.......
Red IS faster so lets stop al the BS...........

I will be ordering the JTL soon.....All positives so far on this forum and have not heard of a negative.

Unless having to change your underwear is a negative???

No, but it is definitely quicker with Tungsten.:D Proof is Tungsten is so fast it disappeared off the color charts for 08.:D

No, but it is definitely quicker with Tungsten.:D Proof is Tungsten is so fast it disappeared off the color charts for 08.:D


you know it, and now its a collectible:D :D

No, but it is definitely quicker with Tungsten.:D Proof is Tungsten is so fast it disappeared off the color charts for 08.:D

I don't know about that. I think Ford dropped Tungsten because it was so slow it was bringing down the average. :D :D

Go Blue!

I don't know about that. I think Ford dropped Tungsten because it was so slow it was bringing down the average. :D :D

Go Blue!

I thought that was grabber orange?:D :D Tungsten rules!

I thought that was grabber orange?:D :D Tungsten rules!

You know I can't let this go onnnnnnnnn......

All pureists know "WHITE RULES"......................

No, but it is definitely quicker with Tungsten.:D Proof is Tungsten is so fast it disappeared off the color charts for 08.:D

So did the 2008 shelby. Any new info on it? We have a color now how about a car.:D

Jelousy will get you guys nowhere.......
Red IS faster so lets stop al the BS...........

I will be ordering the JTL soon.....All positives so far on this forum and have not heard of a negative.

Unless having to change your underwear is a negative???

I just received my JLT CAI with Evolution tune yesterday. I'm hoping to get it installed this weekend.

Then I will be able to confirm that Alloy is the fastest.

I just received my JLT CAI with Evolution tune yesterday. I'm hoping to get it installed this weekend.

Then I will be able to confirm that Alloy is the fastest.

Very nice. Based on all that I've read, I think we will be going with the EVO stage 1 as well (when a finally get my Shelby).

That is, if I can talk my wife into it. My wife seems to be very concerned about adding more horsepower to the Shelby. It's funny...her dad is a total gear-head who builds hotrods in his spare time. You'd think she would be all over hp upgrades. Maybe it's just that this will be her baby, and she doesn't want to risk wrecking it. We'll see.

After watching this video (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9a1ba47f-dd5f-47e5-bece-98d20183ccd7.htm) I'm convinced the JLT CAI is the way to go...wow, what a difference. :eek:

You will not regret it!:) But bring a change of underwear for the test ride.:D

Stage I is installed. What a difference! Unbelieveable:)

No washers required for the JLT intake either. This thing is scary fast now!

Stage I is installed. What a difference! Unbelieveable:)

No washers required for the JLT intake either. This thing is scary fast now!

The Evolution Ultimate suspension package now a must to eliminate wheel hop and to hook up. Not too happy to see Evolution has changed up their LCA's and UCA's so soon.:( Will speek to Fred on Monday as to the reason. I have not installed either yet but did hear that their UCA did generate some NVH noise. Sometimes it pays to wait and see.;)

The Evolution Ultimate suspension package now a must to eliminate wheel hop and to hook up. Not too happy to see Evolution has changed up their LCA's and UCA's so soon.:( Will speek to Fred on Monday as to the reason. I have not installed either yet but did hear that their UCA did generate some NVH noise. Sometimes it pays to wait and see.;)


The suspension thing looks like something a little more complicated for me to try on my own. May sound silly, but, seems to have a bunch less wheel hop now cuz it spins the tire way more than before :confused:

BTW...depending on where you live....wait for warmer weather and air the tires up to the exact specified pressure...then check your wheel hop, prior to spending any money.

bj

^^^

It was in the 80's Saturday. Maybe thats why no wheel hop?

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It was in the 80's Saturday. Maybe thats why no wheel hop?

In the 80's......... Double crap.......... It's snowing here againnnnnn.. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR:mad:

Well, I gave C & L Performance a call yesterday to see what was going on with their CAI system and I was told that they were awaiting delivery of the filters, which you can see in the attached photo is similar to the Kenne Bell filter in shape. So, I ventured onto their site today and they had put an update on. For anyone interested, here it is:

"Update 4/10/2007
Enclosed you will find some images of our pre-production Shelby intake which we have been testing for some time now. The coating on the inlet pipe is NOT representative of what production units will look like, as they will have a finish that more closely matches the factory supercharger and throttle body inlet elbow. The reason why we have not updated this page in a while is due to the fact that we initially made this intake assembly "too big". What this means is that due to it's size, the mass airflow units operational voltage range was too great for the typical Shelby GT-500 owner. We did this originally due to the fact that many tuners warned us that the range for the factory assembly was not great enough, and that we had to be careful and ensure that our assembly had "plenty" of range. As it turns out, our initial tooling provided an assembly with "too much" range, and this had to be addressed before we could bring this product to market. We have now tested the necessary changes to the tooling, and we are satisfied with the results. Once we have finished making these final tooling adjustments, we will be able to start producing kits "immediately". We are sorry for the delay, but we hope that you understand that we would never release a product such as this "before it is ready". If you have been waiting for this system, you won't be disappointed!"

I have a C & L CAI on my '05 Mustang GT and it is very nice, so I have been very interested in what they come up with for the Shelby. Lastly, they said 2 - 4 weeks wait on filters.

I have been talking to lee @ C&L about their GT500 intakes, when I can get one I will make a tune for it.

just purchased an intake and a tune=D
also purchased and installed the Ford Racing exhaust (borla) and... the difference is AMAZING.
=D
hopefully i'm in just as much awe with the intake and tune difference!

just purchased an intake and a tune=D
also purchased and installed the Ford Racing exhaust (borla) and... the difference is AMAZING.
=D
hopefully i'm in just as much awe with the intake and tune difference!

You will be!;)

All I can say is WOW...
Big difference!!!
I was going to start driving it less for mileage purposes... but now I never want to stop! I take breaks at work just to go out and feel the power! :)

All I can say is WOW...
Big difference!!!
I was going to start driving it less for mileage purposes... but now I never want to stop! I take breaks at work just to go out and feel the power! :)



Yep,but does it ever stop?You keep wanting more and more.

Yep,but does it ever stop?You keep wanting more and more.



I am finally done,again:D I loaded the tune this morning between opening the pool and cleaning the deck.I washed it and took it for a ride.Wow,what a beast.I beat on it for about an hour and not 1 problem.No leaks no check engine light and no tickets then no gas:rolleyes: .I thought she was fast before,did I say wow.:rolleyes: I am really happy with what I have accomplished and really sore.I'm getting to old to do this stufff,still.;) Put all my tools away last night(till 1:00am)I think I had out every tool I own.I am dying to get it dynoed again.Tomorrow is out of the question,91 and rain.It should be around 625 to 640 rear wheel.:D :D :D I can't wait for the 15th.I haven't been on the board to much but I have been working 12 to 14 hours a day and then working on the baby.She sleeping right now,we wore each other out.:o Well gotto go vacuum the pool.Later...............07..................

07 have to give you alot of credit! I do not know how you accomplished all you did on jack stands. Lord knows I can feel your pain and I did it on a four post lift. You are The Man! See you soon.:)

Outstanding, 07. Congrats! :D

07 have to give you alot of credit! I do not know how you accomplished all you did on jack stands. Lord knows I can feel your pain and I did it on a four post lift. You are The Man! See you soon.:)



I'm not the sharpest tool on the bench,but I did it Myyyyyyyy Waaaaaaaaay.:D :D

Congrats 07! Can't wait to see it on the 15th.:D

OK guys. I got the horsepower bug last night, so I decided to install my JLT intake and Evo tune. All I can say is, Holy $h1i7, this is bitchin! The supercharger just screams now. It makes me feel kinda funny. :o She feels a bit quicker out of the hole. On my test drive, I got some pretty insane wheel hop, so a set of LCAs is in my future. I'm taking her into the local dyno shop tomorrow to make sure everything is in order and to see what kind of rwhp she's pulling. I'll be sure to give y'all an update soon.

Woo Hoo!!!! :D :D :D

OK guys. I got the horsepower bug last night, so I decided to install my JLT intake and Evo tune. All I can say is, Holy $h1i7, this is bitchin! The supercharger just screams now. It makes me feel kinda funny. :o She feels a bit quicker out of the hole. On my test drive, I got some pretty insane wheel hop, so a set of LCAs is in my future. I'm taking her into the local dyno shop tomorrow to make sure everything is in order and to see what kind of rwhp she's pulling. I'll be sure to give y'all an update soon.

Woo Hoo!!!! :D :D :D



Doesn't it feel grand.Hey, did anyone tell you about the boost?:rolleyes: I told you it just won't stop.I want more,more,more.More boost more boost:D :D

Good to hear all the positive results.
Glad your all loving these cars and our kit.

Thanks
Jay

Good to hear all the positive results.
Glad your all loving these cars and our kit.

Thanks
Jay

It's a good product, Jay.

Agreed!
GREAT product =D

It's a good product, Jay.

It is a great product and Jay aims to please. Thanks for the excellent customer relations Jay.:)

I go to the C&L Performance site often and they have an update for there GT500 packages on there today:

2007 SHELBY GT500 TRUEFLOW POWER PACKAGES

Update 6/2/2007
This update is to provide dyno results for our FINAL production stage 1 package for the GT500 Shelby vehicles. We have now settled on a powder coated finish that matches the coating that is applied from the factory on the supercharger case and inlet. This makes the assembly look like it "belongs" under the hood of the Shelby.

Through extensive testing on the flowbench, we have been able to deliver more than 32% additional range and 36% more total airflow to the engine than the stock intake assembly can provide. To our knowledge, the next closest competing aftermarket air intake assembly delivers nearly 12% LESS range than our final production unit. We also used our proprietary flowstand to develop the mass airflow transfer function for our intake to the same standard that Ford coded into the processor from the factory. This mean that rather than using "trial and error" or "guessing" to arrive at the proper adjustments in the computer for the air intake assembly, we have programmed our tuning adjustments with the EXACT numbers into the processor that are appropriate for the intake assembly.

The most notable effect of this is the fact that the "target" air/fuel ratio programmed into the computer is actually VERY close to what is actually realized in testing. Even though the factory Shelby computer is programmed to deliver a 12.0 to 1 air/fuel ratio from the factory, it ends up going into the 10:1 range at wide open throttle in "stock" configuration. If you look at the dyno charts provided on this page, you will notice that our air/fuel ratio charts is MUCH more consistent than the stock one, and it hovers just under the 12:1 point throughout the entire upper RPM range.

A look at the first dyno chart shows this comparison, and gives you a look at our "Best" stock baseline as compared to our "Best" run with the stage 1 package installed. Due to the fact that the temperature during testing was between 92-93 degrees, the numbers are a bit lower than what this same vehicle had generated in "more ideal" conditions earlier this year. All of these tests were performed at normal/full operational temperature, so you are guaranteed that these numbers are representative of "real world" driving conditions.

If you look at the second graph, you will see ALL of the "Back-to-Back" runs performed during this testing. Running these tests "over and over" ensures that you are getting a TRUE indication of what the performance improvements will be like "on the street". If we were to perform a complete cool down and put ice on the supercharger and intake assembly, we certainly WOULD have seen bigger numbers. It is our goal to provide customers with a realistic representation of what is typical for normal operating temperatures. As you can see, the gains were still impressive, even though the baseline numbers were a little lower that in our previous testing.

Testing of this same vehicle back in March of this year showed a baseline of 434 HP. It is important to understand that to get a TRUE representation of gains from any particular modification, you must always perform your testing on the same day, on the same dyno and with the same basic conditions. Otherwise, your results can become skewed, and lead you to make conclusions that are not accurate. For a view of a chart from previous testing on this vehicle under more ideal weather conditions, click HERE. We are very pleased with the results, and are happy to annouce that our inlet assemblies are now in production. As of this moment, we are only awaiting our final production air filter assemblies to come in, and we will be able to begin shipping units as soon as possible.

We are still working on getting an aftermarket snout assembly for the supercharger for the "Stage 2" kits, but this has proven to be difficult. If we are unable to resolve this issue "immediately", we will begin selling pullies with tools in the "Stage 2" package to satisfy those who are unable to wait for the replacement snout assemblies. As always, we are confident that this upgrade is truly the best available for the new Shelby, and we are now accepting orders for the first full production run.

Well you guys hooked me last week.

My Bassanis should be here today and I just ordered the Evo stage II from Fred. It started out that I was going to just get the stage I, but you know Fred.:D He said I may even have it by Sat.:eek: :D

Our little get together last week is sure costing me some money.:eek: :D

Well you guys hooked me last week.

My Bassanis should be here today and I just ordered the Evo stage II from Fred. It started out that I was going to just get the stage I, but you know Fred.:D He said I may even have it by Sat.:eek: :D

Our little get together last week is sure costing me some money.:eek: :D

LOL! That's awesome, harley. I've really been itching to upgrade to the stage two. I'm really proud of the honesty that my wife and I share in our relationship, but I might have to just throw the pulley in without my wife knowing. I can see it now..."Hmmm...the Shelby seems to be running a lot stronger today...I wonder why." :D

Well you guys hooked me last week.

My Bassanis should be here today and I just ordered the Evo stage II from Fred. It started out that I was going to just get the stage I, but you know Fred.:D He said I may even have it by Sat.:eek: :D

Our little get together last week is sure costing me some money.:eek: :D

Fred is a good tuner and an even better salesman.:D Got me for the one piece drive shaft, Bassani headers, high flow cats, exhaust, LCA, UCA, Tri-Ax, 2.6 pulley, suspension package, tunes and I am sure there will be more to come. I must say prompt shipping and a very satisfied customer.;)

Fred is a good tuner and an even better salesman.:D Got me for the one piece drive shaft, Bassani headers, high flow cats, exhaust, LCA, UCA, Tri-Ax, 2.6 pulley, suspension package, tunes and I am sure there will be more to come. I must say prompt shipping and a very satisfied customer.;)

:eek: Wow! And I thought he got to me. Good thing I got off the phone when I did.:D

LOL! That's awesome, harley. I've really been itching to upgrade to the stage two. I'm really proud of the honesty that my wife and I share in our relationship, but I might have to just throw the pulley in without my wife knowing. I can see it now..."Hmmm...the Shelby seems to be running a lot stronger today...I wonder why." :D

Prez, one thing I've learned over my 32 tears of marraige is that it is sometimes easier to beg forgiveness than to ask permission.:D :D

Fred is a good tuner and an even better salesman.:D Got me for the one piece drive shaft, Bassani headers, high flow cats, exhaust, LCA, UCA, Tri-Ax, 2.6 pulley, suspension package, tunes and I am sure there will be more to come. I must say prompt shipping and a very satisfied customer.;)



That's it.Wow you should see my receipts.The scary part is after you guys went home my wife asked me what I was doing next:D She said she wants more chrome.Good thing cause I have chrome I haven't put on yet.At least I can say,hey hun I did this for you.LOL:rolleyes:

Prez.

If I remember right, you are looking for blue air filter to go with your blue carbon fiber intake. I'm looking at a Steeda catalog and they have a replacement filter part# 281-STE100 $49.95. They show it as being blue. You can call them to inquire at 954-960-0774.

Cal

Prez.

If I remember right, you are looking for blue air filter to go with your blue carbon fiber intake. I'm looking at a Steeda catalog and they have a replacement filter part# 281-STE100 $49.95. They show it as being blue. You can call them to inquire at 954-960-0774.

Cal

Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.

Prez

Talked to C&L Performance about there setup a few minutes ago. They still are not shipping, still do not have a pulley to work with, but their CAI and tune (Predator) is $749 and they are taking pre-orders. I love the way their system looks and the dyno graphs are pretty impressive.

I found this throttle body over on rpmoutlet.com:

They also have the blue oil for the conical filters.

I think an upgrade TB will probably only be of benefit to the guys running bigger blowers, IE TVS, whipple, KB.

Today I installed the Evolution Stage II!! Great product Jay and Fred.

OMG!!:eek: :D Now I know what you guys were talking about! Just awesome.:)

It even scared me a little when I started it the first time. It seemed to even start with more authority. This car is scarey fast now.

The blower just screams. It increased the boost to just over 11 psi. Is this what most of you have seen?

Did a way cool burnout in front of the house (no other houses close by) with very little wheel hop and stayed pretty straight but suspension mods are next on the list. See what you guys started.:p ;) This is like being 20 years old again.:D

The past 2 weeks have been pretty productive.
1) installed the Bassanis
2) installed the Steeda hood struts.
3) installed dash plaque and sill plates.
4) installed the S-H-E-L-B-Y letters across the deck.
5) installed various chrome pieces under the hood.
6) installed the Evolution Stage II.

BTW. Thanks to all who submitted tips, photos, etc. It helped immensley.

Nice work! I like it all!

it looks sweet harley

Today I installed the Evolution Stage II!! Great product Jay and Fred.

OMG!!:eek: :D Now I know what you guys were talking about! Just awesome.:)

It even scared me a little when I started it the first time. It seemed to even start with more authority. This car is scarey fast now.

The blower just screams. It increased the boost to just over 11 psi. Is this what most of you have seen?

Did a way cool burnout in front of the house (no other houses close by) with very little wheel hop and stayed pretty straight but suspension mods are next on the list. See what you guys started.:p ;) This is like being 20 years old again.:D

The past 2 weeks have been pretty productive.
1) installed the Bassanis
2) installed the Steeda hood struts.
3) installed dash plaque and sill plates.
4) installed the S-H-E-L-B-Y letters across the deck.
5) installed various chrome pieces under the hood.
6) installed the Evolution Stage II.

BTW. Thanks to all who submitted tips, photos, etc. It helped immensley.





Sweet,nice work.It just doesn't stop does it?

Sweet,nice work.It just doesn't stop does it?

Once you start, it just sets you up for the next mod.:D

Well, I have been waiting over a year for C&L to deliver their CAI and tune. It came in this morning. My son and I installed it in about an hour I think and drove it around a little to check it out. There is a huge difference, but the only one I have to compare it to is 07 SHELBY's and it doesn't really compare to that one! I like it, though!

Well, I have been waiting over a year for C&L to deliver their CAI and tune. It came in this morning. My son and I installed it in about an hour I think and drove it around a little to check it out. There is a huge difference, but the only one I have to compare it to is 07 SHELBY's and it doesn't really compare to that one! I like it, though!



Looks very nice.:D I love the color of the filter,I can't fault you for that.:rolleyes: It looks a lot like the Kenny Bell too.I am sure it sucks in a lot more air and gas.Hey,what's the boost gage go up to now;) I get asked that a lot.For the longest time I really didn't know because it is hard to look at the boost gage and the road at the same time.Curious though.:D Nice going Smitty.:D

Looks very nice.:D I love the color of the filter,I can't fault you for that.:rolleyes: It looks a lot like the Kenny Bell too.I am sure it sucks in a lot more air and gas.Hey,what's the boost gage go up to now;) I get asked that a lot.For the longest time I really didn't know because it is hard to look at the boost gage and the road at the same time.Curious though.:D Nice going Smitty.:D

Thanks, Fred, but I didn't get a look at the boost either! And I am getting some blue oil so I can pretty up the filter! I let my son, Ryan, drive it home on the test drive. He was all smiles and he caught a very nice 2nd!:D

I'll be testing the C&L racer intake on my car later this week.

I'll be testing the C&L racer intake on my car later this week.

I will be interested in your results! Is there a difference between the racer intake and the intake I have?

I've been tuning too many mustang GTs, DOH, C&L makes the racer intake for them, not GT500s.

Someone on another forum asked about teh clearance between the inlet tube and the strut tower brace, so I took a couple of photos.

very nice oldimp! Did that come with a Predator or SCT tuner?

very nice oldimp! Did that come with a Predator or SCT tuner?

It came with a Predator tuner.

I finally finished my thorough test of the C&L intake, and posted the results in this thread.
http://www.fordgt500.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19520#post19520
I found that the C&L supplied MAF transfer function is very rich.