which one would you rather have?

This isn't real is it? I'm imagining this thread. :p

Maybe Viper SRT 10 vs the GT500 would be a lively discussion.

Two different cars. If you have a family to cart around, definately the SRT8 Charger.

I've seen SOLID proof from RELIABLE guys with SRT8 Chargers that their cars have run 12.8s in the 1/4... at 4300 lbs. STOCK. That's nothing to sneeze at.

If you were to line up with an SRT8 Charger in a GT500, you better be able to drive that car well. Too much spin or response delay, and that Charger COULD take you. They're amazing muscle cars. And they're HUGE.

Charger is ugly so i'll go with GT500

Ditto on the ugly. If Chrysler would make a two door version, then.....

Like this perhaps?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/bmartin9122/Miscellaneous/Challenger-front_14.jpg

with this 510hp motor?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/bmartin9122/Miscellaneous/hemi_392.jpg

Could you imagine in the 80's watching them Duke Boys riding around in a 4 door family car doing jumps and stuff.....they messed up.....GT500 all the way.

Ford and DCX obviously have different approaches to power. Ford makes use of forced induction while DCX doesn't. I like the Ford way - the Shelby is rated (we think) at 475SHP at 8.5 pounds of boost. With a compression ratio of less than 9:1, you can *probably* take that bad boy up to 12 pounds of boost without blinking and I bet that you can go higher than that.

The "Challenger" won't see much but tail end of the Shelby if that's the case.

You can spray the DCX engine of course but that's riskier than a blower to me and the blower is "always on" power while spraying is fleeting at best. The point that I'm trying to make - haha - is that I feel that the Ford approach leaves much more room for HP gain in the aftermarket.... but, we'll see!

Ford and DCX obviously have different approaches to power. Ford makes use of forced induction while DCX doesn't. I like the Ford way - the Shelby is rated (we think) at 475SHP at 8.5 pounds of boost. With a compression ratio of less than 9:1, you can *probably* take that bad boy up to 12 pounds of boost without blinking and I bet that you can go higher than that.

The "Challenger" won't see much but tail end of the Shelby if that's the case.

You can spray the DCX engine of course but that's riskier than a blower to me and the blower is "always on" power while spraying is fleeting at best. The point that I'm trying to make - haha - is that I feel that the Ford approach leaves much more room for HP gain in the aftermarket.... but, we'll see!

I agree that lower compression lends itself better to forced induction. However, there are a few aftermarket folks already installing maggies on the 5.7L and 6.1L motors. GS Motorsport and Hennessey come to mind immediately. Why not the 6.4L? I guess you could argue the reliability of such a high stress motor could be reduced. I can't argue one way or the other on that. I do know the 6.1L has many go fast goodies built into it such as forged internals, sodium-filled valves, etc. One thing hurting the aftermarket on DC's products is the Enigma Machine-style PCM.

...Charger srt-8 doesn't look good at all especially from the 4 dr. sides and the ugly rear end. Shelby will destroy that 4dr. family muscle car. As for the challenger,..that's not to bad looking,but I was at the 2006 Detroit Show 2 weeks ago and they are not putting in the 6.4L (392). They said they are using for the top srt-8 model of the challenger, the 425hp 6.1L hemi. The 6.4L is strickly for aftermarket with lousy gas mileage. I'll take the Shelby GT-500 all day long with its 475+HP. Plus the charger has IRS with no real gear changes, While we have the solid rear axle for quick gear changes,and stronger axle for loading up alot of hp for faster et's. Plus the aftermarket is huge for the Mustang,...but not for the charger and challenger.;) :D

Charger is an automatic too, just imagine the lower times if it was a manual...with the weight of the GT500, I wouldn't get too confident till it runs more and proves those tires can give it a good launch.

Charger is an automatic too, just imagine the lower times if it was a manual...with the weight of the GT500, I wouldn't get too confident till it runs more and proves those tires can give it a good launch. That's a good point, and I'm curious to know...How big of tires will be able to fit on the rear? (nice and tucked in of course).:cool:

My wife and I could not deside, so she's getting the SRT-8 and I'm getting the GT Rag

^does she want the Charger a SRT-8 or Chrysler 300 SRT-8...The more I see that 300 it's growing on me, and they apparently take to supercharging quite well from an Article I had just read. I can not picture a woman driving the Charger SRT-8!

Her Last car was a 03 Benz CLK 430. In the summer she rides a 01 HD Fat Boy.
Not to Brag, but... she can handle it. We've been married 24 years and she still amazes me.

Fat Boys rock....ok, well I'll admit she has good taste:)

...the GT500 will kick the charger srt-8, 300c srt-8,and challenger srt-8 in the ass.They can never hold a candle to the Shelby!Even if you supercharge the srt-8's(which is not recommended with its higher compression ratio),and ones that have had maxed out around 500rwhp......guess what,the Shelby has been dynoed at 489rwhp from factory,and a simple pulley change for higher boost,tune and exhaust the GT500 gets 638 rwhp!!!! Game over.....Shelby wins!! ;) :D :cool: This really is good stuff, there is no way Chevy or Chrysler are going to touch this.
(unless they drop the compression ratios of their engines, forge the internals, and go the forced induction route as well--but for some reason that strikes me as unlikely.)and very expensive for them to do these mods.:rolleyes:

OK... are some of you people really comparing a 4400 lb Charger SRT8 to a 3400-3600 lb GT500?!?!

There's no comparison between the two vehicles... you might as well compare an Explorer to a Z06...

While they're both muscle cars, one is FULL sized, the other is damned near compact.

The GT500 is very impressive for what it is designed for... but the Charger, at 4400 lbs., is arguably MORE impressive. A full sized car that has been proven to run mid-12's (personally watched one go 12.68 in the 1/4), STOCK. No mods. Plus, the Charger handles like its step-sibling Mercedes. You can pitch a party tent in the back seat of that thing, plus some lumber, yet it performs like I've said.

Sure, the GT500 will beat it in most comparisons, but it's 800+ lbs lighter and the back seat (identical to my 06 GT) is just barely big enough for an average person.

Two different cars. Apples to oranges.

But make no mistake, if you need an all around fast car, the Charger SRT8 has no equal in its price range, plus/minus $15,000.

The GT500, being truly a limited run car, will be priced by dealers at a markup WAY ABOVE AND BEYOND the bank accounts of 95% of its fans. Only a few will own it, compared to the Charger SRT8 (not a limited run car).

Now, its realistic to compare the GT500 and Challenger (SRT8 variety)... but once again, the GT500 is a true limited run car... so there's still an issue with production number differences (being in the 10,000s, I'm sure).

BTW: The 6.1 is under-rated. From what I've gathered, its putting out 450+. Watch out for the 6.1 mods out there... I've heard of some ported heads adding 70 Rear-whp... with NO other mods. THAT'S scary.

OK... are some of you people really comparing a 4400 lb Charger SRT8 to a 3400-3600 lb GT500?!?!
Wrong!! Charger srt-8 is close to 4200lbs. and Shelby's GT500 is near 3920lbs.

The GT500 is very impressive for what it is designed for... but the Charger, at 4400 lbs., is arguably MORE impressive.

Sure, the GT500 will beat it in most comparisons, but it's 800+ lbs lighter and the back seat (identical to my 06 GT) is just barely big enough for an average person.
Two different cars. Apples to oranges.
You got that right...shelby looks cool,...charger does not!!:p
Wrong again!!! Charger is more impressively uglier!:p(front end is not bad,but the sides,4 drs. and the whole rear end,makes this car Fugly)!If you want to say that its impressive for a 4 dr family sedan at 4200lbs having a 13.3 et, than I'll agree to that for what its worth ...............Wrong!! closer to 250 lbs. or so, not 800+!!!:rolleyes:

But make no mistake, if you need an all around fast car, the Charger SRT8 has no equal in its price range, plus/minus $15,000.

BTW: The 6.1 is under-rated. From what I've gathered, its putting out 450+. Watch out for the 6.1 mods out there... I've heard of some ported heads adding 70 Rear-whp... with NO other mods. THAT'S scary. Wrong!!! Shelby GT500 "IS" in the srt-8 price range(can't talk about above msrp prices),...and is "more than its equal"!! The 12.6-12.7's et time for the charger srt-8 was recorded in the cooler fall weather with temps between 40-50 degrees! All cars are quicker with cooler temps. In the normal warmer summer months the srt-8 turns in 13.2-13.3 range...Not that impressive!! The Shelby will be a low to mid 12's car even before doing mods!!.........and by the time you port heads etc....to get your 50-70 more hp for your srt-8,that takes you to 500-520 at the crank!...Not RWHP!!! !!The Shelby GT500 on the other hand (if you want to talk mods) and "inexpensive easy mods" to boot,....can do a Blower pulley change,exhaust and tune,...and its instant 638RWHP!!!:D :cool: Its already been dynoed with factory set-up (no mods) at 489RWHP!!!...srt-8's having only around 370 or so RWHP factory! Game over all srt-8's will lose,research and Do the math!!!!:p ;)

^does she want the Charger a SRT-8 or Chrysler 300 SRT-8...The more I see that 300 it's growing on me, and they apparently take to supercharging quite well from an Article I had just read. I can not picture a woman driving the Charger SRT-8!

Don't forget about the Magnum... It seems like the Magnum is destined for the scrap heap of anonymity. Even most writers forget about it when talking about LX platform vehicles. That is fine with me, because I like being the only one in South Texas with one.

Wrong!!! Shelby GT500 "IS" in the srt-8 price range(can't talk about above msrp prices),...and is "more than its equal"!! The 12.6-12.7's et time for the charger srt-8 was recorded in the cooler fall weather with temps between 40-50 degrees! All cars are quicker with cooler temps. In the normal warmer summer months the srt-8 turns in 13.2-13.3 range...Not that impressive!! The Shelby will be a low to mid 12's car even before doing mods!!.........and by the time you port heads etc....to get your 50-70 more hp for your srt-8,that takes you to 500-520 at the crank!...Not RWHP!!! !!The Shelby GT500 on the other hand (if you want to talk mods) and "inexpensive easy mods" to boot,....can do a Blower pulley change,exhaust and tune,...and its instant 638RWHP!!!:D :cool: Its already been dynoed with factory set-up (no mods) at 489RWHP!!!...srt-8's having only around 370 or so RWHP factory! Game over all srt-8's will lose,research and Do the math!!!!:p ;)

With all due respect, regardless if the MSRPs are the same, the GT500 being a limited prod. car will NEVER sell for MSRP... people on this very forum are reporting $70,000+! That's friggin nuts. Not only that, but if 20,000 GT500s are made, that in NO way satisfies the market desire (given that the car is sold at/around MSRP).

Ford screwed the average muscle car people by making it so limited.

Not only this, but OK, the weight figures are "off"... I've seen the Charger listed at 4300 lbs and change. I'm surprised the Cobra is going to weigh that much... quite piggish for a Mustang.

Bottom line is that the GT500 isn't accessible to the average GT500 fan who would otherwise be able to afford it at MSRP. All points are moot if only a select few rich people can own this car.

With all due respect, regardless if the MSRPs are the same, the GT500 being a limited prod. car will NEVER sell for MSRP... people on this very forum are reporting $70,000+! That's friggin nuts. Not only that, but if 20,000 GT500s are made, that in NO way satisfies the market desire (given that the car is sold at/around MSRP).

Ford screwed the average muscle car people by making it so limited.

Not only this, but OK, the weight figures are "off"... I've seen the Charger listed at 4300 lbs and change. I'm surprised the Cobra is going to weigh that much... quite piggish for a Mustang.

Bottom line is that the GT500 isn't accessible to the average GT500 fan who would otherwise be able to afford it at MSRP. All points are moot if only a select few rich people can own this car.I keep telling you,Ford didn't screw anybody,...its the greedy dealers that the manufactures have no control of them raising their greedy prices over msrp!!......to compare, srt-8's version of the chargers,300's etc., are all limited quantities also,....but "they don't" look half as cool looking, and don't have the hp numbers and the popular retro muscle car styling and ultra hp as the shelby,so demand is very high for the Shelby, compared to the srt-8(and greedy dealers know it unfortunately) ,...as the shelby gt500 is the best priced "new muscle car" in the world for its price of just under 40k with its looks and performance and all, period! Had to jump on it immediately a long time ago,...and you would have had one at msrp also,...but now there are waiting lists,...snooze.....you lose!!!!;) :cool:

...Charger srt-8 doesn't look good at all especially from the 4 dr. sides and the ugly rear end. Shelby will destroy that 4dr. family muscle car. As for the challenger,..that's not to bad looking,but I was at the 2006 Detroit Show 2 weeks ago and they are not putting in the 6.4L (392). They said they are using for the top srt-8 model of the challenger, the 425hp 6.1L hemi. The 6.4L is strickly for aftermarket with lousy gas mileage. I'll take the Shelby GT-500 all day long with its 475+HP. Plus the charger has IRS with no real gear changes, While we have the solid rear axle for quick gear changes,and stronger axle for loading up alot of hp for faster et's. Plus the aftermarket is huge for the Mustang,...but not for the charger and challenger.;) :D
gentlemen, i have the benefit of owning both these cars. i love them both. the challenger is an awesome car, def. underpowered when u compare it to the mustang, but kennebell is coming out in a couple weeks with a SC for the hemi 6.1 and its suppose to put that bad boy around high 600HP. That will be fun fun fun. The challenger is far more comfortable and boy is it geourgous. Everyone loves that car. if i want to go fast i take the cobra. if i want to cruise to the cape, i take the hemi. there completely diff rides. after a wekend in the hemi i jump into the shelby and it scares the shit out of me every fucking time. I have alot of mods in it too so thats prob why. The car feels like a freakin race car, everything about it, the sound, the clutch the suspension. The challenger feels like a powefull car but not after getting out of my cobra, Now my grand national, now thats another story, thats truly my fav. only 400 original miles on her.

The challenger is far more comfortable and boy is it geourgous. Everyone loves that car. if i want to go fast i take the cobra. if i want to cruise to the cape, i take the hemi. there completely diff rides. after a wekend in the hemi i jump into the shelby and it scares the shit out of me every fucking time. I have alot of mods in it too so thats prob why. The car feels like a freakin race car, everything about it, the sound, the clutch the suspension. The challenger feels like a powefull car but not after getting out of my cobra, Now my grand national, now thats another story, thats truly my fav. only 400 original miles on her.

Right on, the SRT cars are great touring vehicles. You can really feel the Merc DNA in the ride, and the grunt of the 6.1 is a whole different animal than the Shelby. Best thing, I can slide my 2 toddlers in and out of the back seat like egg cartons, and keep the Shelby just for me......:)

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x79/roman371/bee.jpg

this should be a no brainer of course the gt500,i would compare the gt500 to the srt8 challenger not the charger

this should be a no brainer of course the gt500,i would compare the gt500 to the srt8 challenger not the charger

Look at the date of the OP... in 2006 the Challenger was merely a rumor, so the closest comparison in the SRT8 line would have been the Charger/Magnum/300.

I own both (Mag SRT8) and love them each for different reasons. It takes a lot more to mod the SRT8 to GT500 performance... but then again if you're JUST looking at $, you can get the SRT8 to match a stock GT500 with the same amount invested. But yeah... that means 10k in mods to meet the MSRP of a Shelby.

The SRT8 is world's more comfortable both in the seats and in the suspension, they don't have the wheelhop we have (although I am hearing now that the Challenger seems to), and there are a lot more comfort and safety features. So the SRT8 is terrific on a long road trip, and if properly modded... a real terror on the street. But the Shelby is just raw "awesomeness" and can provide a LOT more performance potential.

wheel hop is nothing in the gt 500 compared to my 08 viper

I RUN THAT CHALLENGER HARD EVERY TIME I RUN IT, I LOVE THE SOUND OF THE EXHAUST IN THE HIGHER RPMS ITS JUST AWESOME, ANYWAY, IVE NEVER EXPERIENCED WHEEL HOP. tHATS WHAT i LOVE ABOUT THAT CAR, I CAN RUN IT TO ITS LIMIT BURN A LITTLE RUBBER IN FIRST THEN QUICK RIP/CHIRP INTO SECOND AND ANOTHER CHIRP INTO THIRD. AND THE WHOLE TIME THE CAR IS COMPLETELY UNDER CONTROL. IT REACTS AS EXPECTED WHEN IT KICKS OUT AND BREAKS FREE IN A SLIDE. MY COBRA, FORGET IT, IF I FUN IT EVEN SLIGHTLY HARD ITS ALL OVER THE ROAD, NOT COMPLAING, BUT ITS VERY DANGEROUS, I NEVER KNOW WHEN ITS GONNA BREAK LOOSE, ONE ASPHALT IMPERFECTION AND ITS SIDEWAYS AT 70+MPH IN THE TOP OF SECOND. NOW THAT SCARES THE SHIT OUTTA ME. THERES JUST SO MUCH POWER AND TORQUE. i LOVE THE GT500 THE BEST ON THE HIGHWAY, THERE IS NOTHING BETTER, 4 WIDE LANES, LIGHT TRAFFIC AND BAM..GO GO GO ... i ONLY HAVE ONE MOD LEFT, AND THATS MY SMALLER PULLEY FOR THE TVS, IM NOT EVEN SURE WHY IM DOING IT, I REALLY HAVE NEVER ONCE SAID; "GEE, I WISH THIS CAR HAD MORE POWER" AHH BUT WHAT THE HELL, ANOTHER 30+ HP COULDNT HURT. i GOT A DATE WITH A GPZ750, AND I THINK ILL KEEP AHEAD OF HIM. HEY (="Yellow"]SLEESTACK[/B][), LOVE THAT COLOR CHOICE ON UR COBRAA. sO (BANDITSRT8) THAT HEMI U GOT THERE, EVER ET IT? IM GETTING KENNEBELL'S SUPERCHARGER IN A COUPLE WEEKS FOR MY CHALLENGER, CANT WAIT, CANT IMAGINE THAT CAR WITH MORE POWER THAN MY COBRA, HHMMM???

Caps ftl...

The Shelby is different, not a tamed beast as your Mopar. I've never lost control and I drive the ever-living fuck out of my car. You will get a feel for the car eventually Rick. On another note, your Challenger will be a competitor to the Shelby's once you slap that KB on there. 600 horse right?

Two different cars. If you have a family to cart around, definately the SRT8 Charger.

I've seen SOLID proof from RELIABLE guys with SRT8 Chargers that their cars have run 12.8s in the 1/4... at 4300 lbs. STOCK. That's nothing to sneeze at.

If you were to line up with an SRT8 Charger in a GT500, you better be able to drive that car well. Too much spin or response delay, and that Charger COULD take you. They're amazing muscle cars. And they're HUGE.
Sorry to disagree, but my last car was a CSRT8 and no way are they a 12-second car from the factory. Even guys with CAI's and tunes were fighting to break 12's. You may find a couple of good examples to break high 12's under ideal conditions but they're the exception and not the rule. As you said they are a different car than the GT500 with a different purpose. Apples to oranges, but if you're going to compare the GT500 will walk a Charger all day.

"With all due respect, regardless if the MSRPs are the same, the GT500 being a limited prod. car will NEVER sell for MSRP... people on this very forum are reporting $70,000+! That's friggin nuts. Not only that, but if 20,000 GT500s are made, that in NO way satisfies the market desire (given that the car is sold at/around MSRP).

Ford screwed the average muscle car people by making it so limited.

Not only this, but OK, the weight figures are "off"... I've seen the Charger listed at 4300 lbs and change. I'm surprised the Cobra is going to weigh that much... quite piggish for a Mustang.

Bottom line is that the GT500 isn't accessible to the average GT500 fan who would otherwise be able to afford it at MSRP. All points are moot if only a select few rich people can own this car."


FYI
I think you can now get them for MSRP....times have changed.:zlurking:

BTW: The 6.1 is under-rated. From what I've gathered, its putting out 450+. Watch out for the 6.1 mods out there... I've heard of some ported heads adding 70 Rear-whp... with NO other mods. THAT'S scary.

Sorry to pick on you Sally but my SRT8 dynoed at 372RWHP which computes to about 437 crank hp (15% drivline and pumping losses). And I had a CAI, tune and full cat-back. With the 13.3's they're turning no way they are at 450hp.

Stock SRT8s run an average of 340-350rwhp. I have seen a couple of factory freaks run about 15rwhp more, but that's about it.

Mine dyno'd stock at 340 on a Mustang Dyno.

There have been many stock SRT8s that have hit 12's, this is true. A quick search over at LXForums will prove that to anyone who doubts it. Is it common though? Not really, no.

I have a butt-load of money into my SRT8 and love it, but a few days after I got my Shelby, I ran it against my SRT8 with my wife driving... they pulled about even. Modded (cammed, etc) SRT8 vs bone stock, 500 miles on the clock Shelby, and they pulled even on highway pulls from 60mph.

From a dig... that was a different story because the SRT8 hooks up better, but that was the only reason the Mag pulled out in front. Once I caught traction in the Shelby, I was able to reel my other car in.

I feel "safer" pushing my SRT8 to the limits than I do in my Shelby. Especially if I leave the ESP system on... you damn near can't crash the thing. It is also FAR more stable on uneven pavement. As we all know, you hit a bumpy patch in the road, you'd better back off the throttle in the Shelby because it can get ass-puckering sketchy.

But pure power goes to the Shelby. Especially now that it's modded, my SRT8 just cannot hang. It took me a mere $1200 to mod up the Shelby to completely eclipse my SRT8 that has just under $10k in performance mods. If I slapped a 100 shot on the SRT8 then I'd probably be able to swing the pendulum back the other way, although the 6.1 Hemi cannot handle more giggle gas than that because they do not have forged internals, and have weak pistons.

SRT8's took a lot of time to finally get good, solid mods. Now we are finally seeing them hit 9's with heavy mods, 10's are getting very common among the hardcore. But the casual modder ($10k or less) will best at high 11's.

Caps ftl...

The Shelby is different, not a tamed beast as your Mopar. I've never lost control and I drive the ever-living fuck out of my car. You will get a feel for the car eventually Rick. On another note, your Challenger will be a competitor to the Shelby's once you slap that KB on there. 600 horse right?

Ive never lost control were ive almost crashed, but its definately going sideways under full throttle. Is your car modded? I might not mod the hemi, its kinda nice haveing the mellow ride. Ive got a modded Grand National too, so its nice to have a third ooption. I drive the gt500 every day, it never stops surprising me how fast it is.

I might not mod the hemi, its kinda nice haveing the mellow ride.

The SRT8 is not exactly mellow :zzz:, but I get your point. The cool thing about the SRT8 is that Mercedes platform and advanced Traction Control System make it darn near impossible to crash the thing......even if modded.


Below is mostly stock, just an exhaust, and mellow street start.... :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chS-cysyxgE&feature=channel_page

Ive never lost control were ive almost crashed, but its definately going sideways under full throttle. Is your car modded? I might not mod the hemi, its kinda nice haveing the mellow ride. Ive got a modded Grand National too, so its nice to have a third ooption. I drive the gt500 every day, it never stops surprising me how fast it is.
Grand Nationals are amazing. Even more amazing was in 1985 a six cylinder was trouncing all the V8's at the time. I could have bought one then but I thought the body was too "old man" with a bench seat and all. I bought a '86 Mustang GT instead.

The SRT8 is not exactly mellow :zzz:, but I get your point. The cool thing about the SRT8 is that Mercedes platform and advanced Traction Control System make it darn near impossible to crash the thing......even if modded.


Below is mostly stock, just an exhaust, and mellow street start.... :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chS-cysyxgE&feature=channel_page

I sure wish the Shelby sounded like that.

I sure wish the Shelby sounded like that.

Put a Bassini 3" hi flo cat system with flowmaster 44's and it will sound even better. I wish I knew how to make a video and post it....the sound is incredible.

Ok... I had an '06 300C SRT-8 for over a year. I bought it new and it was a really nice car. But there is no comparison b/w it and the GT500. They are two completely different cars, as everyone has said (and the 300C is the same thing as a Charger).

The 300C rode nicer and could easily seat 5 average-sized people. Absolutely huge trunk.

I had very minimal mods on mine (ECM reprogram, etc), but in TX heat there is no way it would run high-12s on stock tires, but it was certainly a low-13 second car. I raced several stock F-bodies and Termie Cobras and it was a driver's race every time. It's a big-time "sleeper" car.

However, I think a stock GT500 would beat it pretty easily.

For any DCM haters out there... the truth is that they are nice cars, that run extremely well. Some have mentioned the aftermarket for them is growing, but it is _nothing_ like what is out there for the GT500. Mod-for-mod, the GT500 will leave them in the dust rather quickly.

Hi folks! Good to see a few familiar faces around here. MustangSally is a close friend who sold his Mustang a couple years ago, bought a Charger SRT8, put a Vortech blower on it and just recently blew the motor. I see Bandit raising hell on LX forum rubbing his GT500 in everyone's face! LOL Mullen's, you used to peruse LX as well right? Anyways, I love my Charger, but, with the new handling changes the 2010 GT500's have, I'm really liking it. It's got the suspension I want (minus NO IRS), and the power I "need" that would cost me an arm and a leg to do on the Charger. On a side note, as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, Kenne Bell recently released its blower for the SRT8's. There is a guy with one on his stock bottom Challenger pushing 15 lbs of boost. He dyoned at 705 to the wheels and has run mid 10's consistantly. His only mods are Kenne Bell 2.8h supercharger, 80lb injectors,valve body an DR's. He knows the motor is going to fail probably sooner than later but has other plans once it does. Nice of him to do a little R&D!! I look forward to hanging out here and learning more about the GT500's, they are beasts for sure!!

Hi folks! Good to see a few familiar faces around here. MustangSally is a close friend who sold his Mustang a couple years ago, bought a Charger SRT8, put a Vortech blower on it and just recently blew the motor. I see Bandit raising hell on LX forum rubbing his GT500 in everyone's face! LOL Mullen's, you used to peruse LX as well right? Anyways, I love my Charger, but, with the new handling changes the 2010 GT500's have, I'm really liking it. It's got the suspension I want (minus NO IRS), and the power I "need" that would cost me an arm and a leg to do on the Charger. On a side note, as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, Kenne Bell recently released its blower for the SRT8's. There is a guy with one on his stock bottom Challenger pushing 15 lbs of boost. He dyoned at 705 to the wheels and has run mid 10's consistantly. His only mods are Kenne Bell 2.8h supercharger, 80lb injectors,valve body an DR's. He knows the motor is going to fail probably sooner than later but has other plans once it does. Nice of him to do a little R&D!! I look forward to hanging out here and learning more about the GT500's, they are beasts for sure!!


Welcome Bud! A wealth of info here.:)

Hi folks! Good to see a few familiar faces around here. MustangSally is a close friend who sold his Mustang a couple years ago, bought a Charger SRT8, put a Vortech blower on it and just recently blew the motor. I see Bandit raising hell on LX forum rubbing his GT500 in everyone's face! LOL Mullen's, you used to peruse LX as well right? Anyways, I love my Charger, but, with the new handling changes the 2010 GT500's have, I'm really liking it. It's got the suspension I want (minus NO IRS), and the power I "need" that would cost me an arm and a leg to do on the Charger. On a side note, as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, Kenne Bell recently released its blower for the SRT8's. There is a guy with one on his stock bottom Challenger pushing 15 lbs of boost. He dyoned at 705 to the wheels and has run mid 10's consistantly. His only mods are Kenne Bell 2.8h supercharger, 80lb injectors,valve body an DR's. He knows the motor is going to fail probably sooner than later but has other plans once it does. Nice of him to do a little R&D!! I look forward to hanging out here and learning more about the GT500's, they are beasts for sure!!

Welcome Bud, good to see you over here. Enjoy.....

yeah im the one that mentioned the kenne belle charger. so the hemi motor isnt as strong as the cobra huh, interesting. Yah sure on that? oh well.
LIke i said before, i have a cobra and challenger srt8 and im grabbing belle charger as soon as its ready to ship. few more days im told by belle. The challenger, unless i take it from dead stop, has no balls mid gears, when trying to womp on it, too heavy or something, but when i jump in after days in cobra, its like " what the fuck happened, somebody steal 2 pistons, feels slow as shit" either that or my cobra is making shit loads of power, never a day the power doesnt scare me or grab my attention, every time i hit it.
Hey whatta u guys think my cobra will run with street radials. Ive got frpp tvs blower, 2.6 pulley, larger throttle body, colder plugs,fresh air kit, better after cooler thing.
Never dynoed , probally never will, im a track kinda guy, just wondering what to expect, low 12's, maybe a high 11, that'd be cool.. Ill never forget when my GN ran a 11.9 20 yrs ago. I thought i had the fastest car in the world. boy things have changed. Ive got a much faster GN now with only 23 miles, god i love that car.......
Ij bringing all three to the track via a hauler and run em al against the chrondeks; zsdlkvd

Hi folks! Good to see a few familiar faces around here. MustangSally is a close friend who sold his Mustang a couple years ago, bought a Charger SRT8, put a Vortech blower on it and just recently blew the motor. I see Bandit raising hell on LX forum rubbing his GT500 in everyone's face! LOL Mullen's, you used to peruse LX as well right? Anyways, I love my Charger, but, with the new handling changes the 2010 GT500's have, I'm really liking it. It's got the suspension I want (minus NO IRS), and the power I "need" that would cost me an arm and a leg to do on the Charger. On a side note, as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, Kenne Bell recently released its blower for the SRT8's. There is a guy with one on his stock bottom Challenger pushing 15 lbs of boost. He dyoned at 705 to the wheels and has run mid 10's consistantly. His only mods are Kenne Bell 2.8h supercharger, 80lb injectors,valve body an DR's. He knows the motor is going to fail probably sooner than later but has other plans once it does. Nice of him to do a little R&D!! I look forward to hanging out here and learning more about the GT500's, they are beasts for sure!!

Yup, I still raise a little hell over at LXF :)

KB actually made a post there last week showing they hit the TENS in an otherwise stock Challenger. Nicely done.

yeah im the one that mentioned the kenne belle charger. so the hemi motor isnt as strong as the cobra huh, interesting. Yah sure on that? oh well.
LIke i said before, i have a cobra and challenger srt8 and im grabbing belle charger as soon as its ready to ship. few more days im told by belle.

Yes, I am VERY sure. I know at least 5 guys who have blown their motors, and reports of dozens more (one guy went through 3 motors).

6.1's do NOT like boost. Or at least any over 5psi. Same for N20, nothing more than a 100 shot.

Unless you go forged internals, you will without a single shadow of a doubt have a serious issue in a very short time frame. The KB 2.8 was just tested to hit tens, nice setup... but everyone knows the motor will have to be forged to be able to handle boost on a fairly regular basis.

BTW: You keep saying "Cobra"... do you own an SVT Cobra too?

Hi folks! Good to see a few familiar faces around here. MustangSally is a close friend who sold his Mustang a couple years ago, bought a Charger SRT8, put a Vortech blower on it and just recently blew the motor. I see Bandit raising hell on LX forum rubbing his GT500 in everyone's face! LOL Mullen's, you used to peruse LX as well right? Anyways, I love my Charger, but, with the new handling changes the 2010 GT500's have, I'm really liking it. It's got the suspension I want (minus NO IRS), and the power I "need" that would cost me an arm and a leg to do on the Charger. On a side note, as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, Kenne Bell recently released its blower for the SRT8's. There is a guy with one on his stock bottom Challenger pushing 15 lbs of boost. He dyoned at 705 to the wheels and has run mid 10's consistantly. His only mods are Kenne Bell 2.8h supercharger, 80lb injectors,valve body an DR's. He knows the motor is going to fail probably sooner than later but has other plans once it does. Nice of him to do a little R&D!! I look forward to hanging out here and learning more about the GT500's, they are beasts for sure!!


Hey Bud, welcome. Yea that's me..CSRT8 was traded for the Shelby. The LX community was fantastic. Especially those Spring Fests at Irvine. I was there when that one vendor (I think his name was Jason) got married. Walked the last mile on car mats. Fun stuff.


On another note...15lbs of boost on a 6.1? Wow I bet 10.3 comp ratio doesn't like that. Cylinder pressures through the roof.