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L&M NSR cams installed.

Purposely lost 100 pound feet of torque on the hit to pick up 80 rwhp above 5000rpm. Next week I am gonna put Christine on FTW fuel and let her eat.

Now, if it weren't 90f and 3,000 DA every day



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Re: L&M NSR cams installed.

Have you driven it on the street yet? if so can you feel the loss of torque and does the hp gain feel worth it?
I'm debating on getting these for the next mod, problem is if I go that far I might as well do the oil pump, then while I have the balancer off it would be easy to throw on a 10%, then I will surely max out my 56s so I'm probably gonna need id1000's and a boost a pump, not sure if I can live off of top ramen for a year...

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Have you driven it on the street yet? if so can you feel the loss of torque and does the hp gain feel worth it?
I'm debating on getting these for the next mod, problem is if I go that far I might as well do the oil pump, then while I have the balancer off it would be easy to throw on a 10%, then I will surely max out my 56s so I'm probably gonna need id1000's and a boost a pump, not sure if I can live off of top ramen for a year...
Because of the lope there is a slight difference in the way you leave a stopsign but there's no loss of driveability, per se.

You wouldn't feel a loss of torque in everyday driving nor on the track. Your short times at the track will generally improve with less torque as it won't be so hard to launch.

Fueling is dependent upon what you want to do with the car. Are you adding cams primarily for power? Then you'll need fueling. If you want a little more power and primarily looking for old school sound, you may be ok with the 56s and a booster. You would need to log and review.

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Re: L&M NSR cams installed.

BJ,

What would you guys typically charge (Or just the number of hours) for the install of these, Motor in Car obviously?

You can PM if you'd prefer not post it around. Mostly just curious on the hours.

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Re: L&M NSR cams installed.

Cars with only 3 digit horsepower numbers are weak.



WOW!
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BJ,

What would you guys typically charge (Or just the number of hours) for the install of these, Motor in Car obviously?

You can PM if you'd prefer not post it around. Mostly just curious on the hours.
Sorry so long for an answer. I don't get notifications.

15 hours @ 100.

Engine must come out or add 6 hours.

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Sorry so long for an answer. I don't get notifications.

15 hours @ 100.

Engine must come out or add 6 hours.

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Out of curiosity, how long does it take to pull the motor? Does the 6 hours wash out compared to R&I of the motor?
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Out of curiosity, how long does it take to pull the motor? Does the 6 hours wash out compared to R&I of the motor?
About 2 hours. The issues are:

With motor in-

the drivers side valve cover is a real treat to R&R. I've done it a couple of times and its a PITA of monumental proportions

you're going to have to pull the front cover anyway so it's much easier to get to everything with the engine out

the rearward exhaust followers are a monumental pain in the ass to deal with due to the crap in the way (brake booster, lines, etc) and the fact that it's WAY down there.

With the motor out-

No valve covers to screw with.

Front cover MUCH easier to get to and remove

Much easier to check for unobstructed turning as you install each cap.

Much easier to get pulleys and belts back on

Much easier to assure you don't have crap bound or pinched as you put the valve covers and stuff back on (as me how i know said the man that was "missing" a fuel injector connector on the drivers side)

So, it's better all the way around to pull the motor.

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About 2 hours. The issues are:



With motor in-



the drivers side valve cover is a real treat to R&R. I've done it a couple of times and its a PITA of monumental proportions



you're going to have to pull the front cover anyway so it's much easier to get to everything with the engine out



the rearward exhaust followers are a monumental pain in the ass to deal with due to the crap in the way (brake booster, lines, etc) and the fact that it's WAY down there.



With the motor out-



No valve covers to screw with.



Front cover MUCH easier to get to and remove



Much easier to check for unobstructed turning as you install each cap.



Much easier to get pulleys and belts back on



Much easier to assure you don't have crap bound or pinched as you put the valve covers and stuff back on (as me how i know said the man that was "missing" a fuel injector connector on the drivers side)



So, it's better all the way around to pull the motor.



bj


Having never pulled a motor, I always thought it would be a monumental task but you make it sound easy here.
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Having never pulled a motor, I always thought it would be a monumental task but you make it sound easy here.
I didn't say that. I said it much better to do so.

Figure 2 hours out....3 to 4 back in....provided that nothing goes sideways. Much less chance of that happening with the motor out than doing it in the car.

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