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Re: 2015 GT500 keeping the 662 hp Trinity 5.8

So many rumors as to GT500, GT350, Mach 1 for 15/16. I've even heard Roush will replace Shelby, etc. Only Ford knows lol.
Can only wait and see...

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So many rumors as to GT500, GT350, Mach 1 for 15/16. I've even heard Roush will replace Shelby, etc. Only Ford knows lol.
Can only wait and see...
Agreed, all we can do is enjoy what we've got, I'm pretty happy with the current product
Always going to be something faster, newer, etc.
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Re: 2015 GT500 keeping the 662 hp Trinity 5.8

Yup.
They're saying the leaked images may be renderings as posted 8 hours ago on a google search.

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Just received my December issue of Car and Driver with an article on the 2015 Mustang. Article titled, we leak the 2014 Mustang. They report initial offerings of the GT500 will keep the 662 hp Trinity 5.8 and sport a new independent rear suspension.

She's looking good and still looks like a mustang.
IF C&D has nailed the styling, I like the car just fine and think it will appeal to most.

C&D alluded to future use of Trinity, but that runs afoul of several factors like the ability to fit the engine within the car and anecdotal reports from within Ford by those who actually make them. Any continued interim use would be as a combination stopgap and effort to further amortize existing tooling until the 2016 CAFE mandates after which Trinity has no rational existence.

Unless I misread or didn't read the article in its entirety, it makes no allusions about a future GT500.

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My bet is still on a turbo Coyote as the eventual top dog powerplant in the new 'stang.....
Amen. Reports are additional work is needed before the TT work undertaken in CobraJet as a test bed are not quite delivering the combination of performance, reliability and economy goals Ford wants to achieve before releasing it to production in a warranty-covered product.

Any stopgap use of Trinity, perhaps by a combination repackaging and shoehorning would be a short-lived effort made in too-small numbers to derive the kind of yield that would make the effort worth undertaking. That's not to say a Trinity-based CobraJet couldn't be in the works or some other such specialty product, but I'm continuing to believe C&D is giving-in to hype or disinformation and 2015 will be model year without a GT500 placeholder, or a short-year run that switches over to 2016 to both increase the exclusivity of 50th anniversary cars and buy Ford the time it needs to introduce a HiPo version without needing to wait an entire traditional model year cycle.

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Re: 2015 GT500 keeping the 662 hp Trinity 5.8

If the new halo V8 engine has less displacement, but a cooler/heavier nickname than "Trinity", is it a wash??

Just stirring the pot! I think everybody needs to do a bit of self-reflection and ask themselves if they're just hung-up on numbers and names (5.8 and "Trinity"), or are they actually interested in having the hottest/nastiest hardware under their hood.

I do understand the desire to have mechanicals that are unique and set apart from the GT...

My only point is, Ford can do that, without necessarily clinging to old hardware that delivers poorer hp-per-liter.

With all these opposing rumors flying about, you almost have to wonder whether Ford is playing games, for the pure sport and competitive-advantage of keeping Chevy guessing and guessing and guessing right up to the latest possible moment.

It's hard to set target-benchmarks when you have no clue what the competition will be.

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I'll believe it when I see it actually in the car.
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C&D are speculating like everyone else...
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Kurt, when is your build date

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Re: 2015 GT500 keeping the 662 hp Trinity 5.8

Thought the order banks were closed on them?? Several on lots to choose from, and you can get deals.
Newer car will have its pro's, thats for sure. I just hope the new power plant will leave all of the comp in the dust.

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If the new halo V8 engine has less displacement, but a cooler/heavier nickname than "Trinity", is it a wash??

Just stirring the pot! I think everybody needs to do a bit of self-reflection and ask themselves if they're just hung-up on numbers and names (5.8 and "Trinity"), or are they actually interested in having the hottest/nastiest hardware under their hood.
It's neither intrinsically better, worse or a wash. It's different. A crucial trait of the current-generation large-displacement supercharged motors is a sensory experience turbocharging or even massive amounts of displacement alone doesn't deliver.

No matter how many tenths quicker or miles per hour faster or slower one engine may or may not be relative to another, the big, hairy, snarling growl and power delivery of a supercharged V8 with massive amounts of displacement is utterly unique. Combined with the knack Ford developed for imbuing S197 with so much of its retro heritage without being dated, it's a unique combination an IRS will take as much away from as turbocharging or more contemporary styling.

As much of a market as may exist for a futuristically-styled twin-turbo corer carver, especially in markets with entirely different operating economics that lack the same cultural appreciation for much of what resonates so well in North America, S550 will likely be an entirely different experience. Whether it's better or worse will be highly individualized. But, above all, the highest performance versions aren't likely to resemble anything we've known so far.

And even in other markets where turbocharging fewer cylinders has become the standard path to maximum performance, line up a 458, Aventador, Vantage V12 and a Trinity GT500 next to each other, and every smartphone immediately gets pointed at the GT500 first. No matter how much more advanced, sophisticated and refined today's Eurocustomer believes himself to be, ESPECIALLY compared to crude and crass Americans, even they can't ignore the visceral brute force satisfaction lots of big cylinders and belt-driven forced induction alone deliver.

Either way, it's not ONLY about having the biggest or fastest whatever. For those with a tremendous affinity for the Trinity, and even its 5.4 predecessor, it's about something very, VERY specific that transcends "better" or "worse".

Some GTs, GT500s, GT350Rs and maybe even a BOSS 302.
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Re: 2015 GT500 keeping the 662 hp Trinity 5.8

Amen Maddy! The 13' 14' is a special car. I'm not stuck on the engine nickname, or the displacement. I'm stuck on the whole car as complete package.
In comparison to my 12' Shelby, & other various year model Shelby's I've driven & ridden in, there is none.
Whatever comes next in the S550 will be unique to that platform. I'm sure Ford won't produce a dud. They've done their homework.
In the end, I think this 2 year run of Shelby's will always be remembered as the top dog of the pack. How ever accurate the leaked out photos of the 15' are, they show me less styling in a way. It's getting a little too rounded off for my taste. Makes me think in a few years, all cars will look nearly the same from a distance.
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